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Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« on: June 30, 2017, 03:47:41 AM »
Earlier today, I was doing a bit of research for a side project of mine, and stumbled across Forbes Fictional 16. Listed at number two was Smaug(Sadly, no relation), with 54 billion dollars in estimated wealth. And, that got me wondering: How much is Ferrovax worth? I get that he's a semi-divine being, but he's a Dragon. And, Dragons have hoards. I'm curious what you think one-thousand(or more!) years of interest and investments would get him. Alternatively, maybe he doesn't make investments. Could he just sit on it instead(doubtful, given his vault at Marcone's place)?

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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 05:39:40 AM »
I think he's loaded.  Would he have investments?  I dunno.  I think gold, jewels, rare artwork, literature, and powerful magical relics are more his style.
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 11:24:39 AM »
I think he's loaded.  Would he have investments?  I dunno.  I think gold, jewels, rare artwork, literature, and powerful magical relics are more his style.
Well, those are investments. They just aren't that liquid (apart from the gold, which can be quickly sold for cash). But who needs liquid assets when you are an immortal that's as old as the world.

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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 02:31:07 PM »
Reference post with what we know about Ferro's wealth thus far:

In GP he was given a case several million dollars worth of gold and jewels. 

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2016 DF Reddit podcast Q&A
What did Ferrovax receive at Bianca's party?
He got gold and gems.  Not like a ton, it was several million dollars worth. 

In SG, he had stored "rows upon rows of closed, Fireproof safes"

And an honorable mention regarding Dragon Hordes: 
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1) What ever happened to Siriothrax's hoard? Did any of the magical powerups in the series we've seen so far originate there?
1) Heh, it's still right where it was. NO ONE wants to pick up anything from a Dragon's hoard. Talk about Death Curses...
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2017, 05:31:56 PM »
^ Maybe they just need a little https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ry4qBSX2U

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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 09:07:37 PM »
Reference post with what we know about Ferro's wealth thus far:

In GP he was given a case several million dollars worth of gold and jewels. 

In SG, he had stored "rows upon rows of closed, Fireproof safes"

And an honorable mention regarding Dragon Hordes:

Interesting, I always wondered what the gift was..  thought it was something more impressive than that.
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 10:01:55 PM »
A dragon hoard is cursed, but what if the treasure is taken after it has passed through multiple hands. The treasure is set to go after thieves, but after a couple dozen transactions, are they still thieves.
I totally see someone using cursed treasure to eliminate others, then reclaim it safely.

There is a common theme of you can't protect yourself from your own energy. I wonder if the curse is best suited to mess with dragons, they would see each other as the greatest competition.

While the curse is sure to be awesome, I still think there would be ways to by pass it. Dresden is always learning secrets that would get him killed so why not one more. We know there are very few true dragons left, 2 I think, so there treasure would be very useful. Not for the wealth, but the artifacts, knowledge and magic they would contain. They might be a treasure hoard, but you can bet, there is enough to make it an armory in the right conditions.
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 11:19:50 PM »
You unearthed a woj I hadn't seen about what was the gift to Ferro.

I got a wag that the red court placed their repository in New Mexico at such a dragon hoard location and consequently paid for it.  I still wonder if a some time travel plot plants some items or leads in changes to help Harry.  He'll, I have two overlayed Harry's talking to Mrs. Spunklecrief.  One who just thinks she is a hard of hearing, old lady.  Another that views her as a real player giving hints to shape outcomes.
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2017, 10:24:40 PM »
It is believed the gift to the dragon was tainted, similar to the athame. If added to the treasure hoard, could it alter the curse on it?
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 11:59:40 PM »
I got a wag that the red court placed their repository in New Mexico at such a dragon hoard location and consequently paid for it.

iirc only Harry, Martin, and Susan knew the location of that Red Court vault. Is it standing abandoned in the desert, just waiting for Harry to remember and use it as his personal arcane walmart?

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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2017, 04:18:24 AM »
It is believed the gift to the dragon was tainted, similar to the athame. If added to the treasure hoard, could it alter the curse on it?

Believed by who?  The only WoJ I've seen on the matter was ambiguous, someone asked him if Ferro's gift was tainted like Lea's, and he said, 'Oh please." or something like that.

Which of course doesn't really answer the question.  Was JB saying being sarcastic, dismissing the idea that Ferro could fall for something like that?  Or was he being sarcastic about the idea that he would reveal something like that?  Or he could just as easily have been saying, "Of course it was!"


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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2017, 07:02:46 PM »
iirc only Harry, Martin, and Susan knew the location of that Red Court vault. Is it standing abandoned in the desert, just waiting for Harry to remember and use it as his personal arcane walmart?

I wonder about this.

Those caves were owned by a company or companies that were controlled by the Rampires.  With the Rampires gone, would the companies be gone as well?

If not, then wouldn't the security and such still be in place?
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2017, 03:19:36 AM »
The management and possibly securit would definitly have been Demi rcv. So it is possible for a time the low levels managed it, but any magics or protections that required the rcv would have failed. So any tone would have gone after these outposts.
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2017, 02:20:23 PM »
As to Ferrofax ... I can't believe he wouldn't want to grow his "hoard".  Thus, I believe he'd have investments.  He does have vaults (assuming Marcone's isn't the only one).

As to his value.  I'd say he's orders of magnitude above folks like Warren Buffet or any of the Princes of Arabia.
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Re: Smaug, Mr. Ferro... and Dollar Signs in the Eyes
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2017, 02:36:42 PM »
It is believed the gift to the dragon was tainted, similar to the athame. If added to the treasure hoard, could it alter the curse on it?

Only if Bianca had a death wish (I know I know, but pretend she didn't expect to die via Harrybomb).  Ferro is a Dragon, capital "D", remember?  As in Immortal Force of Nature On Par With Mab.  And Ferro is quite a bit more direct than Mab.  I'm pretty sure if the ramps had been dumb enough to curse his gift, he would have wiped them out for the insult.
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