duration of thaumaturgy

[potestas]

I am a bit confused on the basic length of time a thaumaturgy ritual will last without adding to its time. Certainly better than instant and certainly not a few moments or why bother with the ritual at all. Where do you all start it before you have the players start adding shifts?

[Nepene]

p266 covers it. Manouvers and solutions to problems tend to last a scene, aka 15 minutes. Some last forever, because they inflict consequences and no longer need magic (e.g. blowing up someone's heart) and some like wards last till the next sunset.

[Taran]

p266 covers it. Manouvers and solutions to problems tend to last a scene, aka 15 minutes. Some last forever, because they inflict consequences and no longer need magic (e.g. blowing up someone's heart) and some like wards last till the next sunset.

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[potestas]

ill reread thank you