Etymology of Angel Names in DF

[Dina]

I'll never understand why they who control this forum won't open it up to Google searches. :shrug:

Anyway, I really doubt that Nic and the Dinarians are working for the Outsiders.

I reckon they are trying to protect our privacy.
Also, again with the Dinarians  . I feel like the leader of a sect or something.

[megarows]

Ok, think I added everything so far.  Seems like our mutual friend got popular, so created a new section for him as well.  I had to interpolate names so yell if you don't like them.

"the Prince of fucking Darkness"

Official title accepted.

Also, siluriformes is the order of the catfishes (order as a taxon). But I don't think Saluriel is a reference to that.

Shardik, only with a catfish.  It might still work.  A large catfish.

Akar from Malay3 gets you "plant root".  Akariel is described as dark, big, and furry, but that's it.  There's a possibility that its actually a plant-like form, and the "fur" is actually a lot of root hairs all across the body.  Seems like a stretch, but I haven't seen anything else.

Doesn't really seem any less likely than an inanimate gate that's none of those things.  Named as darkroot for obvious reasons.

Nam from Vietnamese4 means "man".  Thorned Namshiel is said to look like a human skeleton with bone spurs at its joints.  It could be a proto-man form.

Went with "Prototype of God" but all I could think was "Oohhhh... Skin Man."

the darkest shadow

I'll file this with our mutual friend's section for now.

[Griffyn612]

I'll never understand why they who control this forum won't open it up to Google searches. :shrug:

Anyway, I really doubt that Nic and the Dinarians are working for the Outsiders.

No, it's my Kindle for PV search that is failing.  But I agree, the search for the site is horrible.

[Tami Seven]

Varthiel = Varth + iel

varth : perhaps a play on Darth Vader?

[Tami Seven]

I also found something here

In the North East of England there is another definition, "taken from Old Norse rather than Old English, and comes from 'varth-lokkr' meaning (essentially) 'one who locks (something) in' or 'one who encloses'." As a term of honour, it is used to describe "an exorcist or a magician who traps and disposes of unwanted entities"

[megarows]

varth : perhaps a play on Darth Vader?

I actually had a similar thought, but I'm not sure how to interpret that.  What do Darth and Vader mean, and what happens when you swap the first letter?

I also found something here

I'm not able to translate varth with any of the online Old Norse dictionaries I can find, so I'm not really sure what that base means.  I tried translating contextually similar phrases to modern Icelandic with Google Translate, but that failed as well.  Closest-ish I found was svartr ("black").

Anyone have a better Old Norse dictionary/translator?

Sidenote: draugr means tree-trunk?

[Tami Seven]

It's an Old English word,  but I still don't have a definition. If I find it I will let you know.

[Serack]

Ok, I really like the work you put into this, and will be shunting it to the DFRC.  Do you want it there soonest or would you like it to mature in the more active regular spoilers section for a while first?  I certainly want to shunt it over before it locks so that it can continue to get input in perpetuity. 

Edit:
You already have a lot of bullets under the "fallen" characters, but might I suggest adding one for the names of the known hosts and or current dispositions of the coins?

[megarows]

Ok, I really like the work you put into this, and will be shunting it to the DFRC.  Do you want it there soonest or would you like it to mature in the more active regular spoilers section for a while first?  I certainly want to shunt it over before it locks so that it can continue to get input in perpetuity. 

Edit:
You already have a lot of bullets under the "fallen" characters, but might I suggest adding one for the names of the known hosts and or current dispositions of the coins?

Moving whenever you prefer is cool with me.

I'll add hosts for the fallen and bearers(?) of grace for the big four archangels.

[antheerr]

Re Tarsiel - Is Jim a fan of Dragonlance at all?  Just wondered if it might be a nod to the city of Tarsis.

[Second Aristh]

For Urumviel:  Thor's hammer in Marvel mythology is made of a metal called Uru, and I've seen Urim used for a name of a magical material before.  Possibly a Beta Ray Bill connection?

Also for Lasciel, it may be worth mentioning that the hourglass sigil is reminiscent of a black widow spider's abdomen marking.

[Tami Seven]

It's an Old English word,  but I still don't have a definition. If I find it I will let you know.

Found one source that defines Varth as meaning "A wonder"

[wizard nelson]

I think when someone is trying to summon HWWB, they call him something like "darkest shadow."

Also, in Small Favor, when Eldest Gruff is chatting with Harry after killing Magog, he refers to the Denarians as "Servants of the darkest shadow."

Ah thank you, I was starting to worry I'd imagined it or it wasn't actually in the DF it said that.

For Urumviel:  Thor's hammer in Marvel mythology is made of a metal called Uru, and I've seen Urim used for a name of a magical material before.  Possibly a Beta Ray Bill connection?

Also for Lasciel, it may be worth mentioning that the hourglass sigil is reminiscent of a black widow spider's abdomen marking.

The hourglass symbol I figured might have something to do with the eyes of the dark Magician Raistlin Majere., from dragon lance fame. One of if not the most famous fallen wizard type. figure it was a reference to the 'truth' of how he was corrupted. Jims a fan, but I can't remember the authers name atm.

[Tami Seven]

Found one source that defines Varth as meaning "A wonder"

Or it could be related to the word vardlokkur.

Or this definition:

    vardlokkur (varth-lokk-ur) - 1. The Warder’s Song; warding charm, ward–allure, ward-entice. 2. Lulling, sight/vision inducing spirit songs. Warding songs used in seidr work. A special gift given to the MOs who come to a seidr. 3. A singer of vardlokkur. 4. A person who opens and closes fetters and locks. 5. One who has the power of binding and releasing spirits using runes. 6. A protector of the Gates. 7. A family’s traditional song used in the home when folks were sitting out with the ancestors to say hello and name their needs.

[Second Aristh]

The hourglass symbol I figured might have something to do with the eyes of the dark Magician Raistlin Majere., from dragon lance fame. One of if not the most famous fallen wizard type. figure it was a reference to the 'truth' of how he was corrupted. Jims a fan, but I can't remember the authers name atm.

With epithets like the "Webweaver" and the "Temptress", the spider theme seems to fit better imo.  Raistlin's eyes seem to be more of a symbol for time itself.