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[Sanctaphrax]

I think it works. What about the switching personalities by switching the hearts thing, though? Is that a more complex transformative thaumaturgic spell? A taken out result?

Forgot he could do that. But I figure a multi-target mental take-out ought to suffice for that.

Where are these rules? All I can think about is the stuff about the speed potion, with its strength providing the shifts for sprinting. Is it the same, with the strength being how many shifts of power you desire and the Discipline roll being the targeting roll?

Page 282. They seem entirely focused on getting yourself around, though. I guess I'll have to write up my own forcible movement rules.

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Here's Trafalgar Law. This time there are actual spoilers in the spoiler tag, so click with care.

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Trafalgar D Water Law (Snorkelling)

One Piece is kind of an odd match with DFRPG. I can see a decent argument for giving Law a full set of Supernatural building blocks, but I think that would distract from who he is.

By high-end One Piece character standards, Law's not exceptionally strong or fast. So I'm just gonna say that in the game he's in, normal physical skills go a lot further than they do in regular DFRPG.

High Concept: Captain Of The Heart Pirates
Trouble Aspect: Doflamingo's Enemy
Other Aspects: Last Survivor Of Flevance, The Surgeon Of Death, Saved By Corazon, Former Warlord, The Op-Op Fruit
Skills:
Superb: Scholarship, Conviction
Great: Discipline, Weapons, Intimidation
Good: Endurance, Presence, Athletics
Fair: Fists, Deceit, Alertness
Average: Empathy, Might, Sailing
Stunts:
Doctor (Scholarship): +1 to treat injuries, further +1 to repair internal damage.
Powers:
Limitation (short ranges only, no evocation elements, no enchanted items) [+3]
  Evocation [-3]
  Op Op Fruit [-4]
  Refinement [-2]
Inhuman Toughness [-2]
Inhuman Mental Toughness [-2]
The Catch (playing on his tragic backstory) [+0]
Magic:
Evocation (Op-Op): +1 power, +2 control
Foci: Sword blade (+3 offensive control), sword hilt (+3 offensive power)
Total Refresh Cost:
-11
Refresh Total:
2

Ad-hoc forcible movement spell rules: thaumaturgy only, 1 shift per zone moved, Athletics defence roll subtracts from the number of zones moved. Defence roll is made against power, not control.

OP-OP FRUIT [-4]
Description: You ate the Op-Op fruit. This isn't really magic, or sponsored, but the sponsored magic rules seem to suit it so...
Sponsor: Nope.
Agenda: Nope.
Evocation: The Op-Op fruit can be used to chop things up and move their parts around. This allows some crazy stuff, like swapping somebody's head with somebody else's foot and somehow leaving both of them alive.
Thaumaturgy: The Op-Op fruit's "ritual" effects are similar to its evocation effects, but bigger and more complex. They include mental attacks that move people's personalities from body to body and movement spells that swap the places of things.
Evothaum: All "spells" that can be "cast" with the Op-Op fruit may be cast with Evocation's speed and methods.
Extra Benefits: Attacks and movement "spells" "cast" with the Op-Op fruit may be given additional targets for 2 shifts per extra target. Movement spells cast this way must exchange the places of the targets. If a target defends well enough that there aren't enough shifts left over to move them to another targets place, but not well enough to be unmoved, move them all the way.

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And here's Harry and Molly. Not my finest creations, to be honest. I'm not gonna re-read entire novels just to get them right, though. So we'll all just have to live with their not-so-goodness.

Obviously these are spoilery. Considered making a new thread in the spoiler board, but these small on-topic spoilers are exactly what we have spoiler tags for.

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Harry Dresden (In A Submarine)

Fire and ice are the same element for the purposes of this character sheet. Removed Lawbreaker because I don't think it belongs on the sheet of someone who isn't actively breaking Laws.

When needed, Harry can get physical powers through the temporary power rules.

High Concept: Wizard Winter Knight
Trouble Aspect: Still A Hero
Other Aspects: Legendary Wiseass, Our Mother's Legacy, Brothers And Sisters In Arms, My Apprentice And My Lady, A Lot To Feel Guilty About
Skills:
Fantastic: Conviction, Discipline
Superb: Endurance, Lore
Great: Athletics, Intimidation
Good: Alertness, Presence, Investigation
Fair: Deceit, Scholarship, Fists
Average: Might, Weapons, Rapport, Empathy, Guns
Stunts:
Longtime Hero (Conviction): Use Conviction instead of Contacts to find and know people who share his convictions or are inimical to them. That is, heroes and monsters.
Powers:
Listening [-1]
The Sight [-1]
Soulgaze [-0]
Wizard's Constitution [-0]
Evocation [-3]
Thaumaturgy [-3]
Sponsored Magic (Winter) [-2]
Sponsored Magic (Demonreach) [-1]
Sponsored Magic (Soulfire) [-3]
Refinement [-3]
Inhuman Mental Toughness [-2]
The Catch (threats to people he cares about) [+0]
Magic:
Evocation (Fire, Air, Earth, Spirit): +1 fire control, +2 fire power
Thaumaturgy: +1 divination complexity, +2 crafting strength
Foci: Staff (+2 offensive fire control)
Enchanted Items: Shield bracelet (8-shift shield, 3 times/session), coat (armour 4, lend-able, 3 times/session), staff (weapon 8 kinetic attack, aimed with Discipline, 1 time/session)
Total Refresh Cost:
-20
Refresh Total:
1

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Molly Carpenter (Snorkelling)

This is the Rag Lady, not the current Molly. No fey powers here.

Mastery of Illusions lets Molly create thaumaturgical illusions with evocation's speed and methods. If I'm GMing, she needs it to make quick mental attacks.

High Concept: Mentally Damaged Wizard
Trouble Aspect: Feared Warlock
Other Aspects: Master Of Illusion, Daughter Of The Carpenters, Don't Tell Me What To Do, In Harry's Shoes, Psychic Over-sensitivity
Skills:
Superb: Lore, Discipline
Great: Deceit, Intimidation, Conviction
Good: Athletics, Investigation, Stealth
Fair: Rapport, Empathy, Alertness
Average: Presence, Endurance, Might
Powers:
The Sight [-1]
Soulgaze [-0]
Wizard's Constitution [-0]
Evocation [-3]
Thaumaturgy [-3]
Mastery Of Illusions [-1]
Lawbreaker (Fourth) [-2]
Refinement [-1]
Magic:
Evocation (Air, Spirit, Earth): +1 spirit power, +2 spirit control
Thaumaturgy: +1 illusion complexity
Foci: variable
Enchanted Items: variable
Total Refresh Cost:
-11
Refresh Total:
2

[Sanctaphrax]

That's it for this thread, at least for now. If someone chimes in with info about Van Helsing or Kirei Kotomine, I'll make those characters. Apart from that, it's time for this thread to go back to sleep.

If you're reading this and you have a moment of spare time, please tell me what you think of (any of) the characters I've posted. I'm not picky about feedback: content-free praise and random insults are both fine by me. But this sort of thing is a lot more pleasant when it's not totally solitary.

[Saracen]

I liked them all, especially the aspects. With Harry, there could be so many it's hard to narrow it down to just seven, but the ones you picked are nice. A couple of points, though:

Harry: You listed Scholarship twice. Also, Longtime Hero sounds weird under Conviction. Wouldn't it be better under Lore?

Law: do you think the "can't swim" factor should be handled simply as a compel of the aspect The Op-Op Fruit? Personally, I would use Limitation or Uncontrolled Power (and would with all Devil Fruit users).

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I liked them all, especially the aspects. With Harry, there could be so many it's hard to narrow it down to just seven, but the ones you picked are nice.

Glad to hear it!

Harry: You listed Scholarship twice.

Fixed. Thanks.

Also, Longtime Hero sounds weird under Conviction. Wouldn't it be better under Lore?

Lore? What does Lore have to do with anything?

Conviction's not a perfect fit, but since meeting heroes and monsters is a direct result of his convictions it seemed at least reasonable.

Law: do you think the "can't swim" factor should be handled simply as a compel of the aspect The Op-Op Fruit?

Yes.

Personally, I would use Limitation or Uncontrolled Power (and would with all Devil Fruit users).

Wouldn't work. Neither Limitation nor Uncontrolled Power has any effect on mundane abilities like swimming.

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If you're reading this and you have a moment of spare time, please tell me what you think of (any of) the characters I've posted. I'm not picky about feedback: content-free praise and random insults are both fine by me. But this sort of thing is a lot more pleasant when it's not totally solitary.

Im really liking the work you are doing, and in a broader sense the sort of exploratory creation that this thread is inspiring.  So both for the work and for leading the discussion:  I salute you.   

[Saracen]

Lore? What does Lore have to do with anything?

Well, it's a knowledge skill, at least. And you can argue it comes from his experience with the occult, beside simple academic research and study.

Wouldn't work. Neither Limitation nor Uncontrolled Power has any effect on mundane abilities like swimming.

Fair enough. I guess I thought that, since the drawback to Devil Fruits is pretty big, it deserved some kind of refresh rebate, and that's why I looked at Limitation or Uncontrolled Power.

Edit - Oh yeah, about Law, we kind-of forgot about Armament Haki. Inhuman Toughness could partially cover it, and you mentioned wanting to avoid giving him Inhuman/Supernatural Strength, but what about it being a catch to any Devil Fruit? Maybe a comprehensive custom power could be created, a somewhat watered-down toughness, strength and thematic holy touch all rolled into one?

[Sanctaphrax]

Im really liking the work you are doing, and in a broader sense the sort of exploratory creation that this thread is inspiring.  So both for the work and for leading the discussion:  I salute you.   

Thanks, it's very kind of you to say so.

Well, it's a knowledge skill, at least. And you can argue it comes from his experience with the occult, beside simple academic research and study.

Eh. Sounds tenuous to me.

I could rephrase the Stunt as applying to people who share his convictions or are inimical to them. It's basically the same, effect-wise, but maybe it sounds more Conviction-y?

Edit - Oh yeah, about Law, we kind-of forgot about Armament Haki. Inhuman Toughness could partially cover it, and you mentioned wanting to avoid giving him Inhuman/Supernatural Strength, but what about it being a catch to any Devil Fruit? Maybe a comprehensive custom power could be created, a somewhat watered-down toughness, strength and thematic holy touch all rolled into one?

Maybe.

Apart from piercing Devil Fruit defences, Armament Haki mostly just feels like a flavour for normal abilities.

I have Strength...because of Haki! I have Toughness...because of Haki! I have really high Weapons....because of Haki! And so on.

I guess it might be worth making the defence-piercing thing into a Power, but I'm not sure exactly how to do that. It's not absolute, so it doesn't just satisfy The Catch. There should be some kind of test, to see if your Haki is strong enough to trump a given defence. But how to represent that?

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I have a complex Npc concept that i would love to see your take on.
The character is a genius who wages war against both crime and later "evil" monsters, not with overt force, but with strategy and cunning. some one who could possibly beat Sherlock Holmes at chess. The only power he has are purely mental he would have accelerated perception and edict memory. His religion ,as far as he is concerned, is preparedness and efficiency. He would give Batman a run for his money when it comes to weapons, armor and gadgets.His mental prowess makes him a master of manipulation, he rarely looses debates and has accumulated the wealth required to even economically attack entire factions.Think batman and Sun Tzu with just a hint of Ironman. As such it would be a lovely chance to illustrate your optimization formula, Varying power levels would be most helpful.

[Saracen]

I could rephrase the Stunt as applying to people who share his convictions or are inimical to them. It's basically the same, effect-wise, but maybe it sounds more Conviction-y?

It still doesn't sit right with me, but better for sure.

Maybe.

Apart from piercing Devil Fruit defences, Armament Haki mostly just feels like a flavour for normal abilities.

I have Strength...because of Haki! I have Toughness...because of Haki! I have really high Weapons....because of Haki! And so on.

I guess it might be worth making the defence-piercing thing into a Power, but I'm not sure exactly how to do that. It's not absolute, so it doesn't just satisfy The Catch. There should be some kind of test, to see if your Haki is strong enough to trump a given defence. But how to represent that?

I'd say simply with Armor vs. Weapon rating based on Presence (or Conviction, although I think it fits less).

I don't think there ever was an instance where someone with Armament Haki active didn't manage to touch a Logia user, so I guess I would start with something like:

1. Haki downgrades the Toughness Power of a Devil Fruit user by one level (Immunity to Mythical, Mythical to Supernatural and so on).

Then I would probably treat it as Weapon rating:

2. Haki gives your attacks a Weapon rating equal to half your Presence skill value, rounded down.

Finally as Armor, with the caveat that you're not trying to dodge when you're using it that way (I can't remember anyone trying to dodge and still applying Haki to protect themselves):

3. You may decide to roll Endurance to defend yourself from a physical attack. If you do, Haki acts as Armor:X, where X is equal to half your Presence skill value, rounded down (maybe not halved? Or rounded up?).

It should probably come as a limited resource, though, both for balancing reasons and because it looks like you can "run out" of Armament Haki. But using Fate Points seems to be too limiting. Stress boxes, maybe?

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I have a complex Npc concept that i would love to see your take on.

It's on the list. I'll get to it if and when I start doing requests again.

It still doesn't sit right with me, but better for sure.

Okay, I'll change it.

I'd say simply with Armor vs. Weapon rating based on Presence (or Conviction, although I think it fits less).

I don't think there ever was an instance where someone with Armament Haki active didn't manage to touch a Logia user, so I guess I would start with something like:

1. Haki downgrades the Toughness Power of a Devil Fruit user by one level (Immunity to Mythical, Mythical to Supernatural and so on).

Then I would probably treat it as Weapon rating:

2. Haki gives your attacks a Weapon rating equal to half your Presence skill value, rounded down.

Finally as Armor, with the caveat that you're not trying to dodge when you're using it that way (I can't remember anyone trying to dodge and still applying Haki to protect themselves):

3. You may decide to roll Endurance to defend yourself from a physical attack. If you do, Haki acts as Armor:X, where X is equal to half your Presence skill value, rounded down (maybe not halved? Or rounded up?).

It should probably come as a limited resource, though, both for balancing reasons and because it looks like you can "run out" of Armament Haki. But using Fate Points seems to be too limiting. Stress boxes, maybe?

I dunno about using Presence. Some haki users have awesome Presence, like Whitebeard and Hancock. Others have solid Presence, like Law and Vergo. And others have unexceptional Presence, like Zoro and Sanji. I can't think of a better skill, though. So maybe it'd be better not to link it to a skill at all, or to make it its own skill.

Pretty sure the Admirals have no-sold Haki-infused attacks. That could be represented by them making their defence rolls, though. Alternately, maybe their own Haki protects them from other people's.

The attack-tanking idea sounds like a pretty good one to me.

There's an existing custom Power, Supernatural Martial Arts, which lets people spend mental stress for combat bonuses. Maybe it could represent Haki, or at least parts of it.

[Saracen]

Maybe make Haki a Presence trapping that you can boost with stunts. Zoro and Sanji's Haki, for  example,  got higher after the timeskip when their refresh presumably was raised and  they could purchase a relevant stunt.

I don't understand what you mean in the second paragraph. As for Supernatural Martial Arts, it looks overly complicated for what I had in mind. Also much more costly than what the manga would suggest.

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Maybe make Haki a Presence trapping that you can boost with stunts.

I don't want to give everyone Haki, and I don't want social skill to inherently carry combat awesome with it.

I don't understand what you mean in the second paragraph.

I'm pretty sure that people have used Haki and completely failed to touch the Admirals. But that could be because the Admirals had "defence rolls" higher than the relevant "attack rolls", or because the Admirals have Haki-related "Powers" that provide Haki defence.

As for Supernatural Martial Arts, it looks overly complicated for what I had in mind. Also much more costly than what the manga would suggest.

I suspect you're looking at the other Supernatural Martial Arts, because the one I meant is quite simple and couldn't be less costly: it's 1 Refresh.

[Saracen]

I don't want to give everyone Haki, and I don't want social skill to inherently carry combat awesome with it.

You don't have to give everyone Haki. You need to purchase a stunt to add a new trapping to a skill, so that's what would have to happen for a character to get Haki. 

I'm pretty sure that people have used Haki and completely failed to touch the Admirals.

In the sense that their attack still went through their incorporeal form? Or that they missed?

But that could be because the Admirals had "defence rolls" higher than the relevant "attack rolls", or because the Admirals have Haki-related "Powers" that provide Haki defence.

Or, if Haki does downgrade Toughness Powers, their resulting Mythic Toughness (plus the roll) was still enough to protect them effectively.

I suspect you're looking at the other Supernatural Martial Arts, because the one I meantis quite simple and couldn't be less costly: it's 1 Refresh.

That's the one I was looking at, actually. With costly, I meant in terms of stress. Yes, consequences are a thing, but still. As written, the power doesn't even allow mental/physical Toughness powers to help, and with how much Haki is throw around by New World users, I don't think you can justify it.