Does "Calm Blue Ocean" work on Hunger rolls?

[Magicpockets]

The Calm Blue Ocean stunt grants +2 to Discipline rolls for keeping emotions in check. Does Feeding Dependency induced Hunger count as an emotion for the purpose of this stunt?

[Wolfhound]

Up to your GM/Table really.

Did the player take the Stunt with the understanding that it would? Does the GM feel it's a bit too powerful if it does?

Personally, I wouldn't allow Calm Blue Ocean to affect Hunger as a GM. However, I would certainly be fine with a custom Stunt - based on Calm Blue Ocean - to be taken that only affects Hunger. I just wouldn't let the one stunt do double-duty. But I am a less permissive GM in that sense, other GMs would be totally fine with it. The support for that would be page 190 "Highly stressful or emotional situations can still trigger your need to feed" (main book). Suggesting Hunger is emotional.

[cold_breaker]

I probably would allow it - for the simple fact that the initial stunt probably wouldn't get a heck of a lot of use otherwise. But again, up to the GM.

[Troy]

I probably would allow it - for the simple fact that the initial stunt probably wouldn't get a heck of a lot of use otherwise. But again, up to the GM.

You're kidding, right?

In a game where there are vampires that can cause you to experience emotion in order to attack you, to manipulate you, to block you... Calm Blue Ocean is awesome.

Hunger is not an emotion, by the way.

[Wolfhound]

... In a game where there are vampires that can cause you to experience emotion in order to attack you, to manipulate you, to block you... Calm Blue Ocean is awesome.

Indeed. Our players and in our game we have found Calm Blue Ocean to be one of the better Stunts. "Bang for the buck" - but we do have lots of emotion affecting NPCs/Antagonists running around (more than just White Court).

[toturi]

You're kidding, right?

In a game where there are vampires that can cause you to experience emotion in order to attack you, to manipulate you, to block you... Calm Blue Ocean is awesome.

Hunger is not an emotion, by the way.

What is the percentage of attacks in the game as a whole that stem from/through emotions? For me, to qualify as awesome, it should at least be a quarter of the time for a stunt.

[Tedronai]

Personally, I wouldn't allow Calm Blue Ocean to affect Hunger as a GM. However, I would certainly be fine with a custom Stunt - based on Calm Blue Ocean - to be taken that only affects Hunger.

If you're contemplating taking a Stunt to augment your Hunger defense or Hunger stress track, you'd be better off simply buying off the rebate and leaving the remaining effects of your Hunger in the narrative hands of Compels.

[Taran]

If you're contemplating taking a Stunt to augment your Hunger defense or Hunger stress track, you'd be better off simply buying off the rebate and leaving the remaining effects of your Hunger in the narrative hands of Compels.

This is a good point, actually.

[InFerrumVeritas]

If you're contemplating taking a Stunt to augment your Hunger defense or Hunger stress track, you'd be better off simply buying off the rebate and leaving the remaining effects of your Hunger in the narrative hands of Compels.

My thoughts exactly.  It also means that you don't have to deal with the sort of wonky hunger mechanics.

[FaerieGodfather]

Similar question. Does it work to resist the mental stress from using the Sight?

[Sanctaphrax]

I don't think so.

[PatchR]

Similar question. Does it work to resist the mental stress from using the Sight?

Of course.

If you're especially good at keeping your cool mentally, why wouldn't it apply to seeing something mind boggling?

[Todjaeger]

Of course.

If you're especially good at keeping your cool mentally, why wouldn't it apply to seeing something mind boggling?

Calm Blue Ocean means you're better at keeping control of your emotions. 

From YS151

Calm Blue Ocean: You are skilled at keeping your emotions in check. Gain +2 to Discipline when rolling to keep emotions under control.

On using the Sight (YS223) the Discipline roll is to defend against the strain of Seeing the true nature of things.  The ability to keep calm IMO wouldn't really help with something like that.

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