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see i think we need more party's

2 can not represent an entire nation.

Heartily seconded. Two parties alone simply can't adequately represent the diversity of this nation.

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Heartily seconded. Two parties alone simply can't adequately represent the diversity of this nation.

Heartily waffling.  While, on the one hand, I'm almost as frustrated with my own party as I am with the other bunch, I would hate to see the US fall into the kind of mess they have in Italy and Israel, where there are numerous parties, so numerous that none can gain a majority on its own.  Every election, they have to form multi-party co-alitions just to come up with a government.  The coalition members all demand concessions and compromises.  Whether they get them or not, the coalitions are always falling apart or threatening to fall apart.  It's not very stable or efficient. 

On the other hand, we've seen ourselves how dramatically both parties can change.  Clinton dragged the Democrats to the center.  Bush II adopted the neo-con agenda.  Neither party is what it was twenty years ago. 

The problem for us is to take control of our parties back to the grass roots and make them what we want them to be, not what they think they have to be to get elected.  We have to stop them focusing on divisive fake problems and force them to address the elephants and donkeys in the living room: abiding by the Constitution, making our healthcare #1 instead of #37, eliminating the national debt, educating our children, recovering our productivity, preserving and improving our environment, and doing government business in real time and the light of day.  I refuse to accept that we cannot; I'm tired of accepting that our parties will not.
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Iago wants to hold off on this til August, and then see if it's still a good idea.

He's con-hopping this month, and is focused on that. (For those that don't know, he runs a gamming company...the very one producing The Dresden RPG, as well as FATE and Spirit of the Century)
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Okay, I will agree with you that politics are a topic that Jim's fans find cool.  It is just not why I come to this forum.  My reaction then is to continue to avoid those threads.

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Fine by me. 
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Iago is planning on making a sub-board for "touchy topics" soon. This board will likely have more policing and thread closures than the other boards by its very nature, as a matter of course. (Or...maybe it won't. You guys are unnervingly polite) It will also have the rule of what happens in there, stays in there...no leaking onto other boards.
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I don't know.  For me its kind of fun.  A corner table would be fine... but it seems like the two political threads are going good so far.  No one's really started throwing any names around yet.

Although I do wonder what'll happen when Ballplayer and Uncle Draggi eventually go head to head.  They both seem to get a bit excited over their points... and they do seem on opposite end of the spectrum from eachother :))

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Re: Mickey.... maybe we need a Corner Table for politics & war, other issues
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2007, 04:16:30 PM »
I'd like to say thanks for this; I've enjoyed the general calibre of discussions on potentially touchy topics here over the past few months, but it does feel easier to be relaxed about engaging with them when they're in a space set aside for the purpose.
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Re: Mickey.... maybe we need a Corner Table for politics & war, other issues
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2007, 09:57:29 PM »
The fact that everyone  tends to have relatively calm and thoughtout discussions is kinda cool. ;)
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