Author Topic: How much time does Beast Change take?  (Read 1558 times)

Magicpockets

  • Guest
How much time does Beast Change take?
« on: May 11, 2013, 04:50:06 AM »
Quick question: How much time does Beast Change take? Is it a full exchange? A supplemental action? Maybe more?

Is there a RAW answer to this?

Offline Tedronai

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2343
  • Damane
    • View Profile
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 05:52:53 AM »
I'm away from books at the moment, but I believe it takes a supplemental action.
Even Chaotic Neutral individuals have to apologize sometimes. But at least we don't have to mean it.
Slough

Offline narphoenix

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2686
    • View Profile
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 06:50:25 AM »
Given that there exists a stunt on the custom list to make supplementary, I think it's a full action by default.
GMing:

Paranet 2250

Avatar from Scarfgirl and TheOtherChosenOne of Deviantart

Offline Taran

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 9860
    • View Profile
    • Chip
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2013, 11:11:01 AM »
True shape shifting takes longer than beast change for more complex things...taking several exchanges   But it says shifting into animals and humanoids is a supplemental.  So I take that to mean beast change is also a supplemental.

Offline Troy

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 145
    • View Profile
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2013, 01:04:40 PM »
In the fiction, it always seems like Billy takes no time at all to transform into a wolf... no longer than it takes to pull off a t-shirt and drop trow.
Ragnarok:NYC
Come play a game in the Dresdenverse with us!
Find us on Skype! Contact LongLostTroy

Offline Tedronai

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 2343
  • Damane
    • View Profile
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 04:27:51 PM »
The Custom Stunt list is not meaningfully fact-checked.  The existence of a stunt there should not be taken as indication of RAW.
If the power itself does not specify an action type, then the Shapeshifting section's intro states it to be supplementary.
Even Chaotic Neutral individuals have to apologize sometimes. But at least we don't have to mean it.
Slough

Offline Taran

  • Posty McPostington
  • ***
  • Posts: 9860
    • View Profile
    • Chip
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 01:28:39 AM »
YS pg 177

Under True Shapeshifting [–4]
Quote
Multi-Form. You may take on nearly any
humanoid or beastly form as a supplemental
action.
Changing into something else—say,
a tree, a vacuum cleaner, a water bed—takes
a longer amount of time, usually several
actions, or even minutes, depending on how
different.

I added the bolded.  I use this ruling for beast shape.


Offline Cadd

  • Conversationalist
  • **
  • Posts: 474
    • View Profile
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 07:50:33 AM »
Quote from: YS174
Unless explicitly noted otherwise, shapeshifting
may be done as a supplemental action.

This sort of settles it, as far as I see it. Beast Change does not "explicity note" how fast a change is, so the above general rule should be applied.

Offline Sanctaphrax

  • White Council
  • Seriously?
  • ****
  • Posts: 12405
    • View Profile
Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 04:42:13 AM »
Indeed.

If a stunt implies otherwise, that stunt has a problem. A problem I should probably fix.

Which stunt is it?