Telekinesis Upgrade

[narphoenix]

So here's a write up of a potential upgrade to Telekinesis:

Stressful Defense (Requires Defensive Telekinesis) [-1]: If you defend against a physical attack with Defensive Telekinesis, and fail the defense, you may choose to take the stress on your Mental Stress Track instead of physical. Consequences sustained as a result of this should reflect the mental stresses of holding a shield against powerful/repeated attacks (HORRID MIGRAINES or CRANKY FROM EXHAUSTION). Stress is affected by Stoicism instead of Toughness, unless the mental Catch/Limitation is satisfied.

I'm worried a little about that last portion, but I figure that people find ways around Toughness, so they could easily find a way around Stoicism.

[Sanctaphrax]

Yeah, I'm a little concerned about that last line too.

For 1 Refresh, your Stoicism covers both physical and mental attacks. That's much cheaper than buying Toughness and Stoicism.

Plus it might be possible to game the Catch. Take a Stoicism Catch that's completely unobjectionable normally, and make sure that it can't be satisfied by any physical attack. Then take this, and have Catchless Toughness at a discount price.

And now that I think about it, the fact that this is optional is a pretty big advantage already. If my entire mental stress track is full, I can start taking hits on my physical stress track.

So yeah, this is worryingly powerful.

On the other hand, you have to invest like 5 Refresh to get it. So it's not totally nuts. But I'd still hesitate to allow this.

[narphoenix]

Do you think it could be increased to [-2] or higher to mitigate the problem, or is the problem deeper than that?

[Sanctaphrax]

Honestly, I'm not sure.

I'd be willing to give it a try at -2, at least.

The Catch thing is fixed easily enough just by using Limitation.

[narphoenix]

That, and I think it would be easier to satisfy a Stoicism Catch than a Toughness Catch.

Also, Sancta, what's the latest write up of Limitation?

[Magicpockets]

How about just removing this part:
Stress is affected by Stoicism instead of Toughness, unless the mental Catch/Limitation is satisfied.

Would it be fairly priced at [-1]?

[Taran]

I don't like the idea of a power that defaults damage to your highest stress track as well as one that has a toughness power tied to it.

I kind of like the idea of this to reflect how people like molly get all whacked out during a physical conflict.

So while people are getting shot, she's taking all this mental trauma.

I agree with Sanctaphrax, you should have the choice to change stress track...

[Sanctaphrax]

Also, Sancta, what's the latest write up of Limitation?

Yo.

How about just removing this part:
Stress is affected by Stoicism instead of Toughness, unless the mental Catch/Limitation is satisfied.

Would it be fairly priced at [-1]?

I think so. Not 100% sure, but I think so.

[narphoenix]

How about just removing this part:
Stress is affected by Stoicism instead of Toughness, unless the mental Catch/Limitation is satisfied.

Would it be fairly priced at [-1]?

Oh. Duh. That works.

[Tedronai]

Actually, simply removing that line won't suffice, as that merely leaves the question unanswered as to whether or what such powers would be effective.
If you mean this to combo with Toughness, then specify that.  If you mean this stress to automatically bypass catches, then specify that, instead (I recommend against this option).

[narphoenix]

Actually, simply removing that line won't suffice, as that merely leaves the question unanswered as to whether or what such powers would be effective.
If you mean this to combo with Toughness, then specify that.  If you mean this stress to automatically bypass catches, then specify that, instead (I recommend against this option).

Perhaps it bypasses Stoicism catches by default, with an option to allow Stoicism to work for additional refresh?