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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #105 on: January 09, 2013, 11:03:02 PM »
Some mythical persons that I would like to see. As most historical charakters are dead, the choise is somewhat limited.They have to be monsters, supernatural beings, have powers or "immortals". I added some suggestions how he/she could be used  ;) :

Black Pete/Krampus: evil sidekick to Santa Clause (Imagine him showing up to give orders/news to Dresden)
The lady of the Lake: Arthurian folklore (would make a great handmaiden to the new Winter or Summer Lady)
Frau Holle: Germanic lore. Truthfully, I believe we have already seen her (Mother winter)  ;D
Gilgamesj: Sumerian king/hero, Wise & powerful. (the true identity of Rashid)
Hafgufa: A giant sea monster from Germanic lore (I can see him attacking Demonreach)
The walking Jew: Christian mythology, Cursed to walk the earth for taunting Jesus (Perhaps he is trying to redeem himself so he helps the knights of the cross or thinks a sword will give him salvation so he tries to steal one)
Sir Galahad: Arthurian knight that found the Grail (perhaps picking up a sword again)
Maria: Mother of Jesus. (comforting Michael Carpenter after he hears his daughter was lost to the WG)
Nicholas Flamel: Great alchemist and the maker of the philosophers stone. But after featuring in a story with that other wizard named Harry, perhaps not likely. (Beer makers are also alchemists right?  ;D )

Lets see if any will show up later on... ;)
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #106 on: January 09, 2013, 11:14:33 PM »
I'd like to see some Dullahan at some point. And an in-depth look at the Svartalves would be nice.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #107 on: January 09, 2013, 11:22:57 PM »
I wonder what type of Fae the Nuckelavee is a Sidhe of (I'm assuming it's a Sidhe because all the extremely powerfull Fae we've been shown are Sidhe). Is it even a Fae? It doesn't seem to share any traits in common with the Fae as described in the Dresdenverse, maybe in-universe people were just confused?
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« Reply #108 on: January 10, 2013, 02:39:18 AM »
I wonder what type of Fae the Nuckelavee is a Sidhe of (I'm assuming it's a Sidhe because all the extremely powerfull Fae we've been shown are Sidhe). Is it even a Fae? It doesn't seem to share any traits in common with the Fae as described in the Dresdenverse, maybe in-universe people were just confused?

The Erlking is an extremely powerful fae but refers to sidhe as being an entirely different group of beings than himself. I think Sidhe are only those high ranking members of the two Courts.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #109 on: January 10, 2013, 02:48:55 AM »
does gangalf count?
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #110 on: January 10, 2013, 03:26:43 AM »
I thought a Golem might be a tough character for Harry to deal with, not being alive and without the weaknesses of human zombies, but a friend has told me that Terry Pratchett has already used more than one Golem in his books.  Jim could still use one, but have to do so in a different way.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #111 on: January 10, 2013, 03:45:46 AM »
I thought a Golem might be a tough character for Harry to deal with, not being alive and without the weaknesses of human zombies, but a friend has told me that Terry Pratchett has already used more than one Golem in his books.  Jim could still use one, but have to do so in a different way.

Wouldn't the fact that even before Harry became Winter Knight he was capable of throwing fuegos that would shatter stone make them rather anticlimactic opponents? Unless they've got some noteworthy supernatural toughness and magic resistance going on.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #112 on: January 10, 2013, 03:56:49 AM »
Wouldn't the fact that even before Harry became Winter Knight he was capable of throwing fuegos that would shatter stone make them rather anticlimactic opponents? Unless they've got some noteworthy supernatural toughness and magic resistance going on.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #113 on: January 10, 2013, 10:00:16 AM »
I defenitely want Shiva to appear. The Hindu god of destruction. Preferably as one of Demonreach's prisoner whom Harry needs to talk to or make bargains with.
I doubt that he's in demonreach. He and Kali are tasked with the purpose of "change" in the universe, we see that everyday in DF. :)
And frankly, I find the idea that he should be restrained in demonreach offensive. Why do people think any pantheon related to destruction or death (like Hades) are "evil"? They're just doing a job, someone has to do it.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #114 on: January 10, 2013, 10:38:17 AM »
I doubt that he's in demonreach. He and Kali are tasked with the purpose of "change" in the universe, we see that everyday in DF. :)
And frankly, I find the idea that he should be restrained in demonreach offensive. Why do people think any pantheon related to destruction or death (like Hades) are "evil"? They're just doing a job, someone has to do it.

same reason disney always makes them the villain in movies:it allows you to comfortably categorize them without searching for moral ambiguity or exploring the sensitive topic of whether death, suffering and disaster are necessary.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #115 on: January 10, 2013, 11:19:00 AM »

same reason disney always makes them the villain in movies:it allows you to comfortably categorize them without searching for moral ambiguity or exploring the sensitive topic of whether death, suffering and disaster are necessary.
good point. i see where you're coming from...
however, i'd prefer such worldviews to remain in less intellectually challenging works of art (there are gripes there as well, but i won't get into that)
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #116 on: January 10, 2013, 12:40:09 PM »

same reason disney always makes them the villain in movies:it allows you to comfortably categorize them without searching for moral ambiguity or exploring the sensitive topic of whether death, suffering and disaster are necessary.
Well, that's basically the reason I like Pratchett: the subverts the trope and then turns that up to eleven. DEATH is doing a job. Just that. But, his hobby (as far as anthropomorphic concepts can have hobbies) is to become more human, or at least study human behaviour, often resulting in funny moments when peopel meet their end, and soon afterwards, death.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #117 on: January 10, 2013, 03:03:42 PM »
I'd love to see a Kirin (or Qilin, spelling varies because Chinese is hard)

I'd also like to see the Erlking in his role guarding the souls of children.
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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #118 on: January 10, 2013, 03:21:52 PM »
I'd love to see a Kirin (or Qilin, spelling varies because Chinese is hard)

I'd also like to see the Erlking in his role guarding the souls of children.
or eating them in some myths :o seriously though yea, i wanna see erl really cut loose in an entitled way(eg, his responsibility to open a can of whoop ass) as opposed to just leading the hunt. odin too really.

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Re: mythological figures we'd like to see
« Reply #119 on: January 10, 2013, 03:55:36 PM »
The Erlking is an extremely powerful fae but refers to sidhe as being an entirely different group of beings than himself. I think Sidhe are only those high ranking members of the two Courts.

Does he? I thought Erl was a goblin Sidhe just like [CD Spoilers]
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