warden morgan routine

[wizard nelson]

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so here i am. hoping i won't be in trouble simply for being contrary.
i greatly feel sometimes i'm being overmodded for minor things that don't make alot of sense

your ninja skills suck... go reread FM its transmuting the mind that makes it so dispicable to transform others *samuria'd*

this is obviously a joke? unless they are truly ninja how does this insult? granted i probably could have worded it better but the *samurai'd* should have made it clear?

you really need to bone up on you laws...

simple statement, non-aggressive, factually sound. they were misquoting the law an i told them it was incorrec

[wizard nelson]

i'll grant that i made a rather snark jest later in the topic but these two thing were both censored and had a PM just for them... i feel my jest angered the mod and made them take offence anywhere they saw even a fraction of a reason to do so. i am aware of the infamous 'flame wars' that were before my time but look, they are OVER yes? when war ends you don't carry around your assault rifle and bust off rounds at anything looking like a disturbance because its no longer the time or place to do so. am i wrong? possibly i was hit so heavily because there isn't a mod on duty at 3 A.M. and therefore they have to lash out more forcefully when they come on in the morning to keep the 'peace'. but this is like a cop brutalizing someone cause they weren't there to stop the initial crime. feeling a little impuned here.
i hope i won't be punished for creating this thread since its actually suggested in the rules, but if i am it will just prove my point..

[Shecky]

It's not suggested in the rules. You're not requesting to change or clarify a policy; you're asking for an exception. Please re-read the rules (points most salient to this issue are bolded):

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[wizard nelson]

i am requesting the weapons be put down in favor of some open discussion about this.

a change of the very strict zero tolerance policy
not for an exception for myself but actual change
quite frankly if i was told i'm being permanently banned, but the policy is going to be changed i'd be satisfied with the results.

[Shecky]

i am requesting the weapons be put down in favor of some open discussion about this.

There's no discussion left. The rules are clear. Please stop arguing.

[Priscellie]

WN, if you're looking for a way to contact Iago, that's through PMs.  He's taking a break this week to spend the holidays with his family, but if you're still feeling unfairly modded after New Year's, feel free to contact him.

We try to keep moderation of members out of the public eye, both for our sakes and the members in question.  While I understand the desire to bring your treatment to the attention of other members, I would note that it was other members who first brought you to our attention.  You've racked up a lot of member complaints in your short time here.

I recommend you take a few days to step back and gain a little perspective on the situation.  Reread some of your posts and try to let go of your emotional reaction to them, and try to understand why others reacted negatively to some of your comments.  Put yourself in their shoes.  Rather than telling yourself, "Well I wouldn't be offended by someone saying X," ask, "Why might X offend or anger someone else?"  Try to empathize, rather than reject their points of view as invalid.

We believe in open discussion, but you need to meet us halfway.  You're asking us to try to understand your perspective.  We're asking you to take the first step by trying to understand ours and the perspectives of those you upset.

It greatly saddens us to restrict any Dresden fan from participating in the forum, because we love sharing our love with as many people as we can.  But we also want to look after the health of the forum.  We've put a lot of work into making this a safe, positive space.  I hope you can find your way to being a part of that.

[wizard nelson]

thank you Priscellie that was both eloquent and kind.

[Mickey Finn]

WN, if it helps clarify, take Ninja Skills out of there...the language of You Suck, when it's not a Chris Moore book, is likely what triggered the moderation. Please note I am guessing on this, as real life started eating my head about 8 months ago and I've been a bit scarce and was not there for the actual incident.

Most boards, minor insults are like punctuation. The powers that be here want it to be basically smack-free, uber polite*...I think** the confusion on the subject is simply a matter of perspective and not seeing the language conflict...assuming you didn't mean any offence by the comment and were just phrasing things comically, basically saying "Your kung fu is not strong enough for this."


*A large chunk of there being zero tolerance is because in the past, certain posters danced the line on purpose to try to sneak in insults without being called on it, or trying to claim "I didn't MEAN to be insulting, I was just being silly" when they were actually trying to be insulting.

**Again, wasn't here for it, so I may be off base.

[wizard nelson]

ahh you understanding of kung fu is VERY good master.
the weird thing is is that post was deleted outright instead of *snip*ing out the unrefined joke portion.