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[Loup_Garou]

I wanna know if anyone knows or has hypothesized about Jim's two-sentence summaries of every book. I think the hivemind could make awesome and/or hilarious summaries of the books we know, but if there is a record of the official versions, that'd be pretty cool to see, too. Does a thread or record of this already exist?

OMG, that would be awesome!  To my knowledge (and I'm new here) no - no summaries like that.

However, forum member wardenferry419 did a really cool list of comparisons &/or suggestions (future books) here, under the thread title of "Possible Patterns".  That thread is now locked, however.   

[Gambit1988]

Is there a recent thread on foreshadowing?Confirmed and suspected?

[frankcesca]

OMG, that would be awesome!  To my knowledge (and I'm new here) no - no summaries like that.

However, forum member wardenferry419 did a really cool list of comparisons &/or suggestions (future books) here, under the thread title of "Possible Patterns".  That thread is now locked, however.   

Super cool post; glad you pointed that one out! We could do some fixing now that SG's out. But it's pretty cool how close those summaries were! Wrong character becoming the new KotC, wrong context for Lash and/or Lasciel, but pretty darn close. The subjects were right on the money! How much had Jim already revealed at that point?

Can we either resurrect that thread or I start a new one on similar lines?!

Is there a recent thread on foreshadowing?Confirmed and suspected?

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,41848.0.html is the most recent one I've seen.

[mid_life_crisis]

I'm quite surprised that I can't find a thread dedicated to Harry and Lash's child.  Am I just being oblivious?
While I'm at it, what is the best thread discussing the origins of Demonreach Penitentiary?

[Serack]

I'm quite surprised that I can't find a thread dedicated to Harry and Lash's child.  Am I just being oblivious?
While I'm at it, what is the best thread discussing the origins of Demonreach Penitentiary?

Hmmm, most of the child topics would be over a month old... Here's one of the best that I know of.

As to Demonreach...  I think there is a reference topic discussing parallels with the Hebrew concept of "the deep," And I have an old pre-CD theory that it is where the benevolent powerful beings of Navajo belief went (and where the Skinwalker should have gone but chose not to, thus becoming malevolent)

aaaand, I woulda posted this 2 hours ago except it's taken me that long to finish writing that little bit because I'm really buisy, so I am sorry I didn't ferret out more links.

[mid_life_crisis]

Hmmm, most of the child topics would be over a month old... Here's one of the best that I know of.

As to Demonreach...  I think there is a reference topic discussing parallels with the Hebrew concept of "the deep," And I have an old pre-CD theory that it is where the benevolent powerful beings of Navajo belief went (and where the Skinwalker should have gone but chose not to, thus becoming malevolent)

aaaand, I woulda posted this 2 hours ago except it's taken me that long to finish writing that little bit because I'm really buisy, so I am sorry I didn't ferret out more links.

No apology necessary.  Thanks for the info.

[Sue]

I know this is soon, and the Steam punk Book is presumably next on the horizen, but I have to ask ... what is the most current info on the next Dresden book?

I just pop in now and then to catch up, and I didn't find anything on it in my look around ...

Thank you! 

[Phil Boswell]

I know this is soon, and the Steam punk Book is presumably next on the horizen, but I have to ask ... what is the most current info on the next Dresden book?

I just pop in now and then to catch up, and I didn't find anything on it in my look around ...

Thank you! 

It's called Peace Talks so searching for that might be helpful: I'll leave it to forum gurus like Serack to pluck the WOJ links out of thin air "just like magic"

I did attempt to add this to the Wiki but the resident dog-in-the-manger didn't like me being "speculative" (based only on a post on Jim's website and Jim himself saying so on Reddit—quote of the day "what is this Reddit thing?") and nixed it. Maybe things have cooled down sufficiently we can try again?

[Sue]

I searched "Peace Talks" and this question and answer are all that showed ... addendum ...

I just found a comment by Priscellie saying no news yet ...
http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden/peace-talks-16

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The following are all discussion threads about Peace Talks.  It's all very speculative since we basically just know the title, but some fun theorizing to pass the time.

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http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,41917.msg2044089.html#msg2044089

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,42371.msg2059955.html#msg2059955

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,42479.msg2064543.html#msg2064543

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,42448.msg2063345.html#msg2063345

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,42053.msg2049240.html#msg2049240

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,42034.msg2048756.html#msg2048756

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Does anyone know if the list of supernatural entities and their eye colors survived the purge monster?

[KurtinStGeorge]

I have noticed that a number of readers don't like the way the Winter Knight's mantel hammers the rape/kill message to Harry.  It is more than a little disgusting no matter how Jim tones down the description of what the mantel is doing.  Even though Harry found a new and creative way to channel the mantel's impulses in Skin Game for his own purposes without letting it control him, the Winter Knight's mantel is a nasty piece of business.

Contrast this to how Lashiel's shadow affected Harry.  In Death Masks Harry just heard a voice and some laughter before he sealed the coin up in concrete and some spells.  In Blood Rites there was a monologue where Harry says he thinks he used to be a better person in the past.  I think that was a subtle clue that Lashiel's shadow was talking to Harry's alter id.  Harry involuntarily calls up hellfire but little else happens.  In Dead Beat Harry make the choice to call up hellfire and he meets Lashiel's shadow.  In Proven Guilty we see Harry becoming angrier.  In White Night he almost loses control of his new found anger before he figures out how to handle Lashiel's shadow.

The way Lashiel's shadow worked was subtle, everything occurred behind the scenes.  The Winter Knight's mantel is overt and many readers find it disturbing.  I'm not sure how Jim can make this situation any better, other than finding a way for Harry to ditch being the Winter Knight.

I think this is another reason why the last two books haven't been as popular with many readers as the earlier ones were.   

[Dina]

eh, are you sure you want to post it here?
In another topic I commented how I feel people is overreacting to the mantle thing. I have no problem with it and find that his reaction to this makes Harry more human and believable.

[KurtinStGeorge]

eh, are you sure you want to post it here?
In another topic I commented how I feel people is overreacting to the mantle thing. I have no problem with it and find that his reaction to this makes Harry more human and believable.

I think some readers are upset by the idea of everything in the supernatural world having some kind of mantel.  Like, if Mab and the other Queens of Faerie have mantels, perhaps the Leansidhe has a mantel, perhaps Eldest Gruff has a mantel, Odin has a mantel, the Gatekeeper has a mantel.  The idea of everyone and everything having a mantel can be more than a little annoying.

However, I'm talking about something which Harry is actually dealing with; and it is something that many readers find disconcerting, at best.

However, rethinking about how Jim might handle the situation, instead of Harry finding a way to ditch the Winter Knight job, Harry will receive training from LTW which allows him to either ignore or transcend the urging of the Knight's mantel.  I think that might make Mab realize she will never bend Harry to her will and also decide she no longer wants Harry to be her Knight.  What would happen after that I couldn't guess, but it's one way for the situation to be resolved.   

[frankcesca]

However, rethinking about how Jim might handle the situation, instead of Harry finding a way to ditch the Winter Knight job, Harry will receive training from LTW which allows him to either ignore or transcend the urging of the Knight's mantel.  I think that might make Mab realize she will never bend Harry to her will

Agree.

and also decide she no longer wants Harry to be her Knight.  What would happen after that I couldn't guess, but it's one way for the situation to be resolved.

Disagree. As I've said before elsewhere, I think Mab wants an Ender - an intelligent commander who can destroy the enemy, who thinks for himself, but at the end of the day reports to her. Also, as much fun as she has with Harry, I think her best idea for how to de-Knight him would be to kill him and she'd have no qualms if that was what she thought was necessary. Seeing as how Harry's narrating the series, unless he's doing so as a ghost from the other side, I don't see it happening that way. I see him maneuvering or negotiating his way out at some point. He's getting smarter and wilier book by book.