Spring Autumn Courts homebrew

[Lavecki121]

Hey I made this up and havent seen anything even remotely close so I wanted to get some oppinions on it.

So Summer is: wildness, birth, growth, renewal, fire
And Winter is: wildness, death, decay, slumber,ice
In their essential nature, Which is what they can cast as magic.

So for Spring I did this: Order, rebirth, imbue, commence, electricity
And Autumn this: Order, undeath, drain, respite, earth

I chose electricity for spring over wind because Sidhe magic doesnt follow the same rules as mortal magics from my understanding and electricity fits in a little better in my oppinion.

I also changed a little in the rulers, for Spring and Autumn I decided that they were a little opposite of Summer and Winter, enough that I chose to use Kings instead of Queens. Thus there is a Father, King and Lord.

I would love some feedback and will later post information on my homebrew for the Swords of the Court Knights and My creations for two of the Knights themselves

[Mrmdubois]

What is imbide

[Keravin]

If you have a look in the Yorkshire campaign you can see we've been playing with Autumn a lot.  Gone for the similar patriachal society as well.

Why not wind with autumn?  Blustery days seem very autumny.   Undeath doesn't seem to work for Autumn. 

[Lavecki121]

Yea I thought wind would work nicely with autumn but I liked the more opposite feel where i associate the electricity with spring from storms so sky and fall has that nice earthy feel. But I could consider changing it.

I had a hard time with that part. I picked undeath because the trees are still alive but the leaves are dying, so they are kind of in between life and death. If you have a better idea i would love to hear it 

[Keravin]

Yeah as I said you may want to go read my Yorkshire thread.  Lots of Autumn court discussion in there.

[Lavecki121]

Yea I am reading up on it right now. It took me a little while to find. Im going to post some IoP on this thread too tonight and a couple of characters.

[Sanctaphrax]

Might as well leave these here, maybe they'll be inspirational or something.

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WYLD MAGIC [-4]
Description: Drawing on the power of the Wyld Court of the Erlking, you're able to cast spells that fit its essential nature: wildness, hunting, balefire, predation. These magics are under the sway and watch of the Erlking; making use of them will inevitably catch his notice.
Sponsor: The Erlking.
Agenda: The Wyldfae are not as fixed in their ways as Winter and Summer fey are, and the Erlking's agenda can change quickly. He is usually neutral and very instinctual. He is not about cruelty, but you really don't want to show weakness to him.
Evocation: Wyld evocations make use of balefire, the Erlking's favoured element.
Thaumaturgy: Wyld Magic can be used to cast rituals that fall within the themes of wildness, hunting, balefire, and predation.
Evothaum: When used to hunt, summoning and divination rituals can be cast with Evocation's speed and methods using Wyld Magic.
Extra Benefits: Wyld Magic provides a +1 bonus to the power or complexity of any spell used to hunt.

SPRING MAGIC/SAOLION [-4]
Description: Drawing upon the Pure Way, the power of the fallen Spring Court, you are able to cast spells that fit its essential nature: change, growth, renewal, light, vitality and earth. These magics are under the sway and watch of the Oberon, Lord of Faerie and inevitably making use of them will draw his notice. This is ancient and rarely practiced lore, focusing on bringing forth the new. This is the power to reveal what is hidden, restore what has been lost and replace what no longer serves its purpose.
Sponsor: The Faerie Lord Oberon and his Spring Court.
Agenda: The revelation of what is hidden, the restoration of what has been lost, the replacement of what no longer has a purpose, and the creation of the new. Plus the destruction of opposing Courts.
Evocation: Spring Magic Evocations make use of earth, plant life, and light.
Thaumaturgy: Spring Magic rituals can be used to create things, to create and manipulate light, or to reveal secrets.
Evothaum: Spring Magic allows its user to cast photomancy rituals with the speed and methods of Evocation.
Extra Benefits: Spring Magic ignores one level of Toughness when used against faeries of opposing Courts.

AUTUMN MAGIC [-4]
Description: Drawing upon the power of the fallen Autumn Court, you are able to cast spells that bring things to an end and harvest what's left behind. These magics are under the sway of the Lord Of Faerie known as The Reaper and using them will inevitably draw his attention.
Sponsor: The Reaper and his Autumn Court.
Agenda: The destruction of old things and the natural process of decay. The collection and liquidation of resources. Hunting. Bringing things to an end. Plus the destruction of opposing Courts.
Evocation: Autumn Magic evocations often manipulate dust or cause targets to rot instantly.
Thaumaturgy: Autumn Magic rituals end things and harvest the leftovers. They involve death, decay, and the collection of valuable things. They can also be used for to track down prey and for hunting in general.
Evothaum: Autumn Magic allows its user to cast necromancy rituals with the speed and methods of Evocation.
Extra Benefits: Autumn Magic ignores one level of Toughness when used against faeries of opposing Courts.

[Llayne]

I had worked up some Autumn Magic a while back, I still have a number of ideas I'd like to use with them if I ever get the chance. I went with Air/Wind also... Growth/Birth and Earth just seemed to feel right to me.

I think it was White Wolf's Dark Age: Mage sourcebook i referenced back then, but they had a fairly interesting write up for the Four Seasons for their Old Faith casters. Autumn was associated with maturity, things and ideas reaching their full potential. Harvest being associated with Fall I suppose. (I don't remember the whole write up)

I never did like the feel of undead or necromancy for the 'nature flavored' magic of the Fae, but everybody has their own tastes. I do like some of the stuff from the Yorkshire thread.

[Addicted2aa]

Might as well leave these here, maybe they'll be inspirational or something.

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WYLD MAGIC [-4]
Description: Drawing on the power of the Wyld Court of the Erlking, you're able to cast spells that fit its essential nature: wildness, hunting, balefire, predation. These magics are under the sway and watch of the Erlking; making use of them will inevitably catch his notice.
Sponsor: The Erlking.
Agenda: The Wyldfae are not as fixed in their ways as Winter and Summer fey are, and the Erlking's agenda can change quickly. He is usually neutral and very instinctual. He is not about cruelty, but you really don't want to show weakness to him.
Evocation: Wyld evocations make use of balefire, the Erlking's favoured element.
Thaumaturgy: Wyld Magic can be used to cast rituals that fall within the themes of wildness, hunting, balefire, and predation.
Evothaum: When used to hunt, summoning and divination rituals can be cast with Evocation's speed and methods using Wyld Magic.
Extra Benefits: Wyld Magic provides a +1 bonus to the power or complexity of any spell used to hunt.

SPRING MAGIC/SAOLION [-4]
Description: Drawing upon the Pure Way, the power of the fallen Spring Court, you are able to cast spells that fit its essential nature: change, growth, renewal, light, vitality and earth. These magics are under the sway and watch of the Oberon, Lord of Faerie and inevitably making use of them will draw his notice. This is ancient and rarely practiced lore, focusing on bringing forth the new. This is the power to reveal what is hidden, restore what has been lost and replace what no longer serves its purpose.
Sponsor: The Faerie Lord Oberon and his Spring Court.
Agenda: The revelation of what is hidden, the restoration of what has been lost, the replacement of what no longer has a purpose, and the creation of the new. Plus the destruction of opposing Courts.
Evocation: Spring Magic Evocations make use of earth, plant life, and light.
Thaumaturgy: Spring Magic rituals can be used to create things, to create and manipulate light, or to reveal secrets.
Evothaum: Spring Magic allows its user to cast photomancy rituals with the speed and methods of Evocation.
Extra Benefits: Spring Magic ignores one level of Toughness when used against faeries of opposing Courts.

AUTUMN MAGIC [-4]
Description: Drawing upon the power of the fallen Autumn Court, you are able to cast spells that bring things to an end and harvest what's left behind. These magics are under the sway of the Lord Of Faerie known as The Reaper and using them will inevitably draw his attention.
Sponsor: The Reaper and his Autumn Court.
Agenda: The destruction of old things and the natural process of decay. The collection and liquidation of resources. Hunting. Bringing things to an end. Plus the destruction of opposing Courts.
Evocation: Autumn Magic evocations often manipulate dust or cause targets to rot instantly.
Thaumaturgy: Autumn Magic rituals end things and harvest the leftovers. They involve death, decay, and the collection of valuable things. They can also be used for to track down prey and for hunting in general.
Evothaum: Autumn Magic allows its user to cast necromancy rituals with the speed and methods of Evocation.
Extra Benefits: Autumn Magic ignores one level of Toughness when used against faeries of opposing Courts.

The Autumn Stuff

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Is there a reason it's mainly decay, death, and Destruction? The harvest is often associated with production and collection. It's the busiest time of the year for farming communities and it brings in the life sustaining goods that allow things to survive the oncoming winter. I would expect something more along the lines of preserving for a theme, then destroying and am interested why you focused so heavily on the ending aspect of fall.

[Mrmdubois]

Yeah, harvest and earth seem better fits with Autumn than undeath.  Maybe sleep, since that's another way that you could envision trees dropping leaves and animals getting ready to hibernate.  Dreams would tie in nicely with Sleep.  I don't think that's been added to any of the fae magics yet.

On the theme of Preparation for Winter during Autumn I think Dreams make sense again if you believe in the prophetic ones.

[Sanctaphrax]

When you harvest plants, you kill them. And the ones you don't harvest die anyway. Hunting animals is similar. Fall is the time of year where life ends.

Things are born in spring, live in summer, die in autumn, and are dead in winter.

So Autumn Magic is mostly about destroying things and harvesting the leftovers.

(My decision to make the Grim Reaper an Autumn lord may have played a factor. If you swap him out for Cronus or some other harvest god, you might want something less death-y.)

[Addicted2aa]

Yeah, harvest and earth seem better fits with Autumn than undeath.  Maybe sleep, since that's another way that you could envision trees dropping leaves and animals getting ready to hibernate.  Dreams would tie in nicely with Sleep.  I don't think that's been added to any of the fae magics yet.

On the theme of Preparation for Winter during Autumn I think Dreams make sense again if you believe in the prophetic ones.

I would change Winter to add sleep to it in that case. Hibernation and all that

[Mrmdubois]

Winter already has a portfolio though, there's no reason to add even more to it.

[Addicted2aa]

Winter already has a portfolio though, there's no reason to add even more to it.

Especially since it's already in winter. Just noticed the slumber is a part of it

[Mrmdubois]

Nice.