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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #825 on: February 16, 2012, 03:36:12 AM »
I would fight too if I was alone. If my parents were with me...I probably wouldn't leave. If I had kids, I'll leave only if I could be sure I will have access to disconnect them.

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« Reply #826 on: February 16, 2012, 03:37:43 AM »
Generally speaking, that's precisely what we are. Cyberspace avatars, controlled and manipulated in this realm by personalities at electronic consoles.

badnwidth/ STN ratios. any computer system capable of simulatign this reality to this detail woud be this reality :)

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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #827 on: February 16, 2012, 03:38:32 AM »
I have problems with theoretical physics. :o
Is it just me or is it getting a little solipsistic in here?

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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #828 on: February 16, 2012, 03:39:49 AM »
How do I know for sure that I'm not in some sort of matrix-like reality right now?  You people could all just be simulations or figments of my imagination.

I know this reality is not figment of my imagination. Simulations, that can be. My imagination? Not so good to create the poetry of Shakespeare and Ms. Duck at the same time.
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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #829 on: February 16, 2012, 03:39:54 AM »
I'm taking a philosophy of mind course right now..  This is something that comes up when the sophomores want to derail the professor.

A Greek named Pyrrho or something like that was the first person to record serious doubts of the existance of anything around him.  I guess in the end, he was convinced that he was the only thing that existed, and his followers had to constantly protect him from walking into holes and stuff, because he didn't believe that they were real.  This is stuff I learned about a few years ago, but I think my recollection is good.

We were talking about Descartes just recently, though.  He was around in late Medieval period, and he brought up serious doubts of the reality of the world around him.  Sensory information is unrelaiable, but what he was sue of was that he was a thinking beng.  That's all he could say for sure at first.  cogito ergo sum.  I think, therefore I am (exist). 
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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #830 on: February 16, 2012, 03:40:52 AM »
That is called solipsism, Don. It was even an spell in D&D  :)

Edited to add: I mean the first thing, not the Descartes one.
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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #831 on: February 16, 2012, 03:41:18 AM »
How do I know for sure that I'm not in some sort of matrix-like reality right now?  You people could all just be simulations or figments of my imagination.

I have proof but you would have to be here in person

Generally speaking, that's precisely what we are. Cyberspace avatars, controlled and manipulated in this realm by personalities at electronic consoles.



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« Reply #832 on: February 16, 2012, 03:42:24 AM »
I have proof but you would have to be here in person

How is that proof?  My senses would tell me that something like seems to be another human being is standing in front of me, but then how do I trust my senses?
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« Reply #833 on: February 16, 2012, 03:43:33 AM »
I've destroyed many a philosophical debate by logic bombs. Or by pointing out that we are essentially a series of chemical processes given sentience.

Or took the obviously stupid side of a debate and won.

 
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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #834 on: February 16, 2012, 03:44:15 AM »
At any rate. Good night, good Weirdos.
Is it just me or is it getting a little solipsistic in here?

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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #835 on: February 16, 2012, 03:45:08 AM »
Good night, DC. Nice dreams!
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« Reply #836 on: February 16, 2012, 03:45:18 AM »
How is that proof?  My senses would tell me that something like seems to be another human being is standing in front of me, but then how do I trust my senses?

It's hard to explain you would have to be in person.
I'll try look in front of you, do you see a computer? A simple yes or no will do.

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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #837 on: February 16, 2012, 03:46:15 AM »
How is that proof?  My senses would tell me that something like seems to be another human being is standing in front of me, but then how do I trust my senses?
Have you got something better to trust?

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« Reply #838 on: February 16, 2012, 03:47:05 AM »
Have you got something better to trust?

Night, DC

He makes a good point.
Sir  Reginald.
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Re: Weird - caught us in mid conversation.
« Reply #839 on: February 16, 2012, 03:48:26 AM »
I've destroyed many a philosophical debate by logic bombs. Or by pointing out that we are essentially a series of chemical processes given sentience.

I would like to examine these bombs.

And yes, it very much looks like we are a series of chemical processes that think.  Epistemologically speaking, we can never be 100% sure of this, though.  We know from experience that things are not as they appear.  My keyboard looks like a solid object, but in reality it's a network of bajillions of tiny things called molecules that are buzzing around like bees!  How are we to know that that's the end of it?

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