Author Topic: [Enchanted Items] Legal to have 2 maneuvers in a single slot?  (Read 5396 times)

Offline Watson

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Re: [Enchanted Items] Legal to have 2 maneuvers in a single slot?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2011, 10:32:17 AM »
This seems to imply it's completely by-the-book then and legal...? Because you can put embed thaumaturgical spells into a slot?

Yes, absolutely.

Quote from: YS279
When you create an enchanted item, you
must specify the effect that the item performs.
Nearly any effect within the range of thaumaturgy
or evocation is allowed (though evocation
tends to be easier because the amount of
power involved is usually comparatively small)...

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Re: [Enchanted Items] Legal to have 2 maneuvers in a single slot?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2011, 11:32:50 AM »
Multiple Aspect creation is explicitly explained on YS 265.
Missed that - thanks.
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Re: [Enchanted Items] Legal to have 2 maneuvers in a single slot?
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2011, 02:34:31 AM »
Could the player cast this in the middle of combat?  Sure!  It's only a complexity 18 ritual; that's totally doable via thaumaturgy-with-the-speed-and-methods-of-evocation - if you're willing to take a good half-dozen points of sponsor debt (remember, The Dark Powers Are Always Willing To Help!)

You do realize that you're the one who determines whether or not he can take sponsor debt. Half a dozen? I'd likely have the sponsor ask "What's in it for me?" as that's a little above and beyond what's normally called for. Remember that on the same page as "the dark powers" sidebar (directly beneath it actually) is a sidebar that says this:

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The GM should decide what level of debt
the sponsor is comfortable with before
calling in a marker. If a sponsored spellcaster
keeps racking up the debt but never gets
compelled, the debt has no teeth. Similarly,
there may be an upper bound of debt at
which point the sponsor cuts him off from
any more power. Every credit card has its
limits; but like a credit card company, a
sponsor is often willing to negotiate, if the
practitioner can figure out how to make an
appropriate petition.

As for the OP, I figure it's pretty well wrapped up, but I'd throw my word in there too (since I'm already posting). It's totally RAW for the aforementioned reasons.
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Re: [Enchanted Items] Legal to have 2 maneuvers in a single slot?
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2011, 02:54:30 PM »
As for the OP, I figure it's pretty well wrapped up, but I'd throw my word in there too (since I'm already posting). It's totally RAW for the aforementioned reasons.

Yup, I'm all good - and appreciate all the discussion & points of view. Always a good reminder that different experiences and views can lead to different - and legitimate - interpretations of the rules.

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Re: [Enchanted Items] Legal to have 2 maneuvers in a single slot?
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2011, 06:17:18 PM »
That killing curse would be doable with a powerful enough item. However, even the Archive couldn't come close to making that item. And you'd probably still need a link to the target.

Forgot to include this in my earlier post, but isn't the target being present generally a fair link to them? That is often the situation in which you would use said item (when in physical conflict with them).