"Bulldogs!"

[Howl]

But seriously - just the inclusion of a whole race of psychopathic, chain smoking killer teddy bears makes this game /win.

Are you serious? That sounds awesome!
I will definitely order the RPG now

[BumblingBear]

Are you serious? That sounds awesome!
I will definitely order the RPG now

"An Urseminite is small, about three or
four feet tall, and looks remarkably like a living teddy
bear. They’re short and pudgy, covered in soft fur that
ranges from pink to brown, and everything about their
physical appearance is completely non-threatening.
They have no claws and their teeth aren’t pointed.......

Urseminites revel in vice. They smoke huge, disgusting
cigars that they roll themselves; they drink to excess;
they hit on everything that moves; they pick fights;
they lie, cheat, steal, and kill—all for amusement
and personal gain. Urseminites are supremely selfish
creatures; there’s a theory that something within the
Urseminite brain prevents them from empathizing
with other creatures, prevents them from realizing that
other creatures aren’t mere playthings for their own
grotesque amusement."

Please buy this game.  You will not regret it.

*Note that the quoted text is from "Bulldogs!" and is owned by Fred Hicks, Brennan Taylor, Brian Engard, etc etc.  I am not stealing anyone's stuff, just trying to promote it.

[EldritchFire]

Are you serious? That sounds awesome!
I will definitely order the RPG now

Deadly serious.

Here is the spoiler page that Brennan put up for us to drool over before the game came out:

[Tsunami]

Oh yes, i had a great laugh on those when i first read my pdf...

They are basically Evil Antisocial Ewoks... it's just great.

And the Game really looks quite good.
We'll see if i ever get to actually play it, but with 10$ for the PDF it's one that's even worth it's price if you only use it for inspiration.

[Howl]

They are awesome. And the picture is great.

[Sanctaphrax]

The Urseminites sound an awful lot like the Ob'enn from Schlock Mercenary.

I wonder which came first.

[Falar]

When did the Ob'enn show up again? Urseminites have existed since the previous version of Bulldogs! which was d20 based, IIRC. I've found art of them dating back to 2003.

[JediDresden]

Thanks for the comments, it sounds great!  I will definitely have to get it. 

Two questions though: Would the changes to the Resources foul up Dresden Files if we houseruled it into our game?  I will be playing soon with a group who are used to playing D&D with loot, could we impliment something into our game similar to those rules and still have it be Dresden Files?

[BumblingBear]

Thanks for the comments, it sounds great!  I will definitely have to get it. 

Two questions though: Would the changes to the Resources foul up Dresden Files if we houseruled it into our game?  I will be playing soon with a group who are used to playing D&D with loot, could we impliment something into our game similar to those rules and still have it be Dresden Files?

It depends on how you incorporate it.

I think it could be a fun idea.  Instead of listing a bunch of items and the resources necessary to buy them, you could just come up with a number/difficulty for a weapon/item the player wants to buy.

I think it could work just fine.

[BumblingBear]

To clarify:

Weapons in Bulldogs have a lot higher weapon ratings than in DFRPG because of how combat works.

In DFRPG, damage is calculated by the attack shifts over the defense plus the weapon rating.

In bulldogs, it's the attack shifts over the defense /OR/ the weapon rating.  Whichever is higher.

[Tsunami]

In bulldogs, it's the attack shifts over the defense /OR/ the weapon rating.  Whichever is higher.

Not quite.

In DFRPG Extra shifts are those above the defense roll, and you add those onto the Weapon rating.

In Bulldogs, Extra shifts only count once you exceed your weapon rating.

An attack with Accuracy:8, Weapon:3 against a defense of 5 does not produce extra shifts.
An Attack with Accuracy:8, Weapon:1 against a defense of 5 produces 2 extra shifts.
An Attack with Accuracy:8, Weapon:0 against a defense of 5 produces 3 extra shifts.

The stress inflicted is the same in all three cases.

But you are right, weapon ratings tend to be higher in Bulldogs, because of how combat works :-)

But now i'm starting to debate Bulldogs rules in the DFRPG... probably not very useful *g*

[InFerrumVeritas]

When did the Ob'enn show up again? Urseminites have existed since the previous version of Bulldogs! which was d20 based, IIRC. I've found art of them dating back to 2003.

I've found a reference in 2001.

Source: http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-05-03

[EldritchFire]

Not quite.

In DFRPG Extra shifts are those above the defense roll, and you add those onto the Weapon rating.

In Bulldogs, Extra shifts only count once you exceed your weapon rating.

An attack with Accuracy:8, Weapon:3 against a defense of 5 does not produce extra shifts.
An Attack with Accuracy:8, Weapon:1 against a defense of 5 produces 2 extra shifts.
An Attack with Accuracy:8, Weapon:0 against a defense of 5 produces 3 extra shifts.

The stress inflicted is the same in all three cases.

But you are right, weapon ratings tend to be higher in Bulldogs, because of how combat works :-)

But now i'm starting to debate Bulldogs rules in the DFRPG... probably not very useful *g*

That's...exactly what he said. It's the higher of attack shifts or weapon rating, whichever is higher...

Or did I miss something?

-EF

[Tsunami]

That's...exactly what he said. It's the higher of attack shifts or weapon rating, whichever is higher...

Or did I miss something?

-EF

You are right... i misinterpreted what he wrote.

i took it to be

shifts over defense
or
shifts over weapon rating

It was late... i was tired...
So... much ado about nothing... lets move on 

[BumblingBear]

You are right... i misinterpreted what he wrote.

i took it to be

shifts over defense
or
shifts over weapon rating

It was late... i was tired...
So... much ado about nothing... lets move on 

lol!

Tired posting ftw!

I think we've all done that.