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[UmbraLux]

Does the white council recognize Governments?

You're kidding, right?

We're talking about a group who only honor seven laws, enforces them on their own outside of any local judicial process, and makes treaties completely ignoring mortal concerns.  The White Council doesn't care about any mortal government. 

[knnn]

Does your group see the White Council as a voluntary organization?  I don't.  Quitting would require the power to take them on...and even that wasn't enough for Kemmler.

You've got to have the power and influence to be recognized while not being opposed by any other powerful organization. 

Thing is, Kemmler was so powerful that *everyone* was scared of him. 

If a group of wizards decided to break off and start their own group under the accords (e.g. without necessarily breaking any of the laws, but adding nationality and "doing good" as an issue).  I could totally see other power groups like the Whites or Reds supporting them, simply to weaken the White Council.

Would the White Council start a civil war to keep their brethren in line?  I'm not convinced they would, esp. given how hard it is to oppose other wizards without breaking the Laws (imagines a pillowfight between Ultimate Fighters).

[fantazero]

You're kidding, right?

We're talking about a group who only honor seven laws, enforces them on their own outside of any local judicial process, and makes treaties completely ignoring mortal concerns.  The White Council doesn't care about any mortal government. 

how do we know that the UK isnt an Accorded Nation or something. I mean the WC is in the UK, the UK has a long line of Magical stuff in its history, and most importantly, thats where Hogwarts is.

[Masurao]

Look at it from another angle, if the White Council had such contacts in the government, why didn't they have them attack the Red Court with military might? Or, from yet another angle, if the governments knew about Wizards, they would have wanted them to help in everything from the WW's to Iraq... Let sleeping dogs and dragons and beasts-in-general lie, my friend.

[polkaneverdies]

Keep in mind that if your guy becomes a freeholding lord he has to be able to handle the job. When Drakuul and Rampires are having a dispute and need a neutral party to mediate he could be tagged in.

[Richard_Chilton]

If the White Council got involved with national governments then they would be dragged into national issues.  That could be bad.  Very bad for council unity.

For example, if in 1914 the White Council had a good relationship with England/France/Germany/Austro-Hungary/ or Imperial Russia (or later: Italy, the Ottoman Empire, or the US) then their government contacts would be screaming "Help! We need magic to win this war.  Look, we helped you with blah and blah - help us now!".  And the White Council has enough problems staying out of that without owing favours.

Plus relationships would hamstring their work.  For example, the events of Proven Guilty.  Can you imagine them talking to a US government rep and saying:
"Oh by the way, there was this American citizen on American soil who was breaking laws that your country never passed, so we gave him a trial that didn't involve your legal system and then we executed him without allowing any appeals.  Yes, we killed someone on US soil because we felt that was the right thing to do."

On the other hand, the US legal system isn't equipped to deal with warlocks - so the White Council has to do its job, but somehow I can't see governments taking something like that lying down.

Richard