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Offline Arcteryx

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Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« on: July 04, 2011, 09:11:22 PM »
'Lo Dresdenphiles,

OK, so I've run into a situation where I need to solidify the mechanics of an NPC seducing a PC - I'm guessing this get handled via social conflict? Does the NPC pile on maneuvers to stick some temporary aspects on the PC, and then tag'em to lay on enough stress to force a social consequences like "Mmmm, Me Want More Amore".

Would you use Deceit or Rapport to attack, Discipline or Rapport to defend?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 09:27:36 PM »
Well, the stunt "Sex Appeal" is based off of rapport, but I could easily see it based off of deceit.  I would probably choose the skill based off of the overall intentions: are they trying to seduce the character because they want sex, or is the seduction a means to getting the PC's Macguffin?
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 09:54:56 PM »
That's why I thought Deceit would be applicable... in terms of context, seemed to make sense if the NPC was after the PC's MacGuffin. Or Big Mac. Or... McNugget. Whatever the case may be...
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 10:20:21 PM »
Seduction with no ulterior motives is probably Rapport modified by Empathy.  With ulterior motives either Rapport modified by Deceit or Deceit modified by Rapport might fit - depending on circumstances and intentions.  Of course other skills may fit better in specific situations - Performance and Presence come to mind as possibilities in the right situation.  Figure out a) intentions and b) methodology and you'll probably narrow which skills apply.

Similarly with defense.  Someone convinced it's "wrong" might defend with Conviction.  Someone trying to avoid distractions might use Discipline and someone with a well defined sense of self might resist manipulation with Presence.  Rapport might be used to convince the seducer to change reasons for the seduction...or to avoid it altogether.  Empathy may help catch any ulterior motives behind the seduction.  As with attacks, start with intention and method then figure out which mechanics fit.
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2011, 10:48:47 PM »
For some, intimidation might be best.
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 02:50:09 AM »
Intimidation?

How?
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 02:56:28 AM »
Quote from: Sanctaphrax on July 05, 2011, 02:50:09 AM
Intimidation?

How?
Well, if agressive approaches aren't enough just consider a few fetishes...
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 06:18:08 AM »
Quote from: UmbraLux on July 05, 2011, 02:56:28 AM
Well, if agressive approaches aren't enough just consider a few fetishes...

Naughty naughty...
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 02:21:56 PM »
But it does highlight the one thing that is neat and cool about FATE or at least the DFRPG version of it... how social conflict can be a bit of a beast to pin down for someone new to the system. Context is all-important - it isn't just always "X Skill Vs Y Skill". It is probably frustrating to some but it's one of the great things I love about the system.
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 03:15:43 PM »
Don't look at it in terms of what skill is linked to a certain action.  Come up with a description of what you want to do and how you want to do it, and a skill will usually suggest itself.  Or work backwards, and pick the skill you'd like to be able to use, then try to come up with a way to feature that skill in your plan.
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 05:17:16 PM »
For some reason this thread has me thinking about the scene in Monty Python's "Quest for the Holy Grail" where a knight is "rescue" - pull kicking and protesting away from the castle where his virtue is being threatened.

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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 05:29:48 PM »
I thought about: "Help, help, I'm being oppressed!" :D
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 01:10:23 AM »
Think it through:
GM: "First, I tag the aspect "Hundreds of girls in the castle".
Then I tag "Their male relatives are all off at the crusades".
Then I tag that your PC has to touch one because she's been naughty and needs to be spanked, and ten NPCs chime in that they need spankings too.  Then I mention the oral sex and start the seduction.  So that's +24 to the seduction roll - you're getting taking out."
Player 1: "No fair! My PC has to be pure to get the holy grail."
Player 2: "Okay, I'll spend a FATE to invoke my "Always there for my friends" aspect and burst in and save you."
GM: "But he's being taken out socially and wants to stay.  Even if he concedes he's getting some action."
Player 2: "So my PC will drag him out kicking and screaming about how much he wants to stay."
GM: "Fine - but I see a rabbit in your future.  Brahahaha!"

Yupe, that's a social conflict - right there at Castle Anthrax.

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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2011, 03:57:13 PM »
I sense the birth of a project that could change the world.

Behold! "Monty Python's Holy Grail, As Told Through The FATE RPG."
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Re: Help, Help, I'm Being Seduced!
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2011, 07:05:31 PM »
It's beautiful...Now only if we could describe swallow flights in Fate it would be perfect.
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