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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #180 on: March 03, 2011, 01:02:13 AM »
So, now that the GS chapter 1 preview is out, does anyone object to adding GS-spoilery questions to this thread?
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #181 on: March 03, 2011, 01:50:46 AM »
So, now that the GS chapter 1 preview is out, does anyone object to adding GS-spoilery questions to this thread?

I don't have a problem with it, but you should add Ghost Story spoilers to the title and we should still put spoiler tags on all material in the thread, so that those who don't want to get spoiled can still use the thread.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #182 on: March 03, 2011, 05:37:18 AM »
I've got  a question thats been bugging me for awhile, why was that Dragon (who from all the WoJ and such I've read could very well be the most powerful entity we have seen to date) at Bianca's party???

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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #183 on: March 03, 2011, 02:43:36 PM »
I've got  a question thats been bugging me for awhile, why was that Dragon (who from all the WoJ and such I've read could very well be the most powerful entity we have seen to date) at Bianca's party???
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #184 on: March 03, 2011, 04:00:10 PM »
I've got  a question thats been bugging me for awhile, why was that Dragon (who from all the WoJ and such I've read could very well be the most powerful entity we have seen to date) at Bianca's party???

That's a very good question.  I have a feeling we won't find out until the BAT.  Everyone at the party got a gift from the Black Council.  We don't know anything about what his was except that it fit in a box.  With him being so powerful, I'm half wondering if he took the gift for simply staying out of their way rather than being a fully allied.  If not, I think Amoracchius will get another notch in it scabbard  :D
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #185 on: March 03, 2011, 09:40:56 PM »
That's a very good question.  I have a feeling we won't find out until the BAT.  Everyone at the party got a gift from the Black Council.  We don't know anything about what his was except that it fit in a box.  With him being so powerful, I'm half wondering if he took the gift for simply staying out of their way rather than being a fully allied.  If not, I think Amoracchius will get another notch in it scabbard  :D

There are a few questions re: Ferrovax that we don't have answers for, at least as far as I know. 1) Why does Michael call him "Blood of the Dragon, that old Serpent", 2) what was in the Box ? 3), as you say, why was he there/involved at all?


Another suggestion for a question: I remember that at some point, Malcolm Dresden starts appearing in Harry's dreams, saying he couldn't show up before then because the other side hadn't broken the rules yet, or something like that. What rules? What other side? What broke them and how?


As a suggestion -- this is a great thread, but it would be even more helpful if the theories that had asterisks also had explanations as to what the asterisks were referring to.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #186 on: March 03, 2011, 10:37:53 PM »
Ferrovax is already in the list, but I can add another question, if you'd like.

-Why was Ferrovax at Bianca’s party, and what did he receive?

@Thork: Thanks for the suggestion, I've been meaning to replace the asterisks with numbered superscripts linked to explanations, but just haven't got around to doing it yet.  Hopefully, this reminder will shame me out of procrastination.  ;)
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #187 on: March 04, 2011, 01:37:40 AM »
Ah sorry, must have glanced passed him.

Ya I dunno, Ferro bugs me.  Him going to Bianca's "welcome to the court" party is like if Jesus showed up personaly at your Grade School Graduation.  Seems real fishy. 

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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #188 on: March 04, 2011, 02:53:22 AM »
Here's one that's been bugging me for a while:

When Harry's house caught fire in Changes, why, exactly, didn't Mouse just start with his "Patented ALARM! Bark" to wake Mrs. Spunklecrief and the upstairs people?
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #189 on: March 04, 2011, 01:32:33 PM »
There are a few questions re: Ferrovax that we don't have answers for, at least as far as I know. 1) Why does Michael call him "Blood of the Dragon, that old Serpent", 2) what was in the Box ? 3), as you say, why was he there/involved at all?

I believe Michael calls Marva "Blood of the Dragon" - leading to our speculation that since Dracula son of Drakul "started the Black Court as teenage rebellion", that Drakul is a half-dragon scion.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #190 on: March 04, 2011, 03:34:21 PM »
I believe Michael calls Marva "Blood of the Dragon" - leading to our speculation that since Dracula son of Drakul "started the Black Court as teenage rebellion", that Drakul is a half-dragon scion.

Yeah, it was Mavra, my bad. I think the actual quote you're referencing though is that Dracula "went to" the Black Court as a kind of teenage rebellion, though, he didn't "start" it -- the black court predates Dracula by a long while. 
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #191 on: March 04, 2011, 03:39:01 PM »
1) Why does Michael call him "Blood of the Dragon, that old Serpent"
I believe Michael calls Marva "Blood of the Dragon" - leading to our speculation that since Dracula son of Drakul "started the Black Court as teenage rebellion", that Drakul is a half-dragon scion.
Yeah, it was Mavra, my bad. I think the actual quote you're referencing though is that Dracula "went to" the Black Court as a kind of teenage rebellion, though, he didn't "start" it -- the black court predates Dracula by a long while. 

I'm pretty sure "Blood of the Dragon, that Old serpent," is a reference to Revelation 20:2 (KJV).

"And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,"

I can see a few possibilities here.  There's also a large possibility of forshadowing on Jim Butcher's part.

1) Michael was speaking metaphoricaly and just calling Marva evil in a really cool way.

2) Michael is implying that Drakul is either a dragon or spawn of a dragon

3) Michael is implying that Drakul is either the Devil or spawn of the Devil

4) Michael is implying that Drakul is the spawn of the Devil and a dragon.  (Run fast, run far, don't look back, and hope you're wearing dark brown pants. :) )
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #192 on: March 04, 2011, 03:57:15 PM »
I'm pretty sure "Blood of the Dragon, that Old serpent," is a reference to Revelation 20:2 (KJV).

"And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,"

Ok, that's a damn good catch on your part -- whichever the resolution, I think it's a damn good question! I just sparked onto it because I noticed Bianca referencing the "Lords of Outer Night" a few paragraphs later, and obviously we didn't get them identified till Changes, so Michael's reference there seemed worth investigating. (From your post, my guess is #3, but it's a neat question whatever way!)
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #193 on: March 05, 2011, 01:55:59 AM »
Frakul does mean dragon, but we havee canon that he and the black court are not related.

(being as his son joined them to get away from dad.)
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« Reply #194 on: March 07, 2011, 01:56:54 PM »
Frakul does mean dragon, but we havee canon that he and the black court are not related.

(being as his son joined them to get away from dad.)
How does a Dragon, a force of nature, have a kid? I mean, Shagnasty was neither male or female and his power level isn't anywhere near Ferro's or Mab's. Do these super-powerful beings get pregged in the traditional sense? Or do they just will an offspring into existence?

And as for Drakul's rebellious son who joined the Black Court....if Drakul is a dragon would that make his son, who I presume is Dracula, half-dragon half-blampire? That seems kinda scary.
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