Oh, now that makes sense. I must have missed that somewhere. One more thing, it's about rote spells. Under Harry's Fuego spell its says "fire attack, four shifts". Now do rote spells have to have a set number of shifts, and if so, when the PC wants to increase the damage does he have roll for control?? thanks for all the help. These were some of issues we were dealing with last night, it was the first session and it could have gone much better. My first DMing experience since high school, so it's been a LONG time, almost 10 yrs since I DMed, always been a PC.