Custom Power List

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The Power of the Blood- [-4]
Description: A true blooded elder vampire can draw a form of magical power from the life in the blood they have stolen. This power can be used to manipulate the blood of others and the blood of the vampire itself. The power of the blood works like evocation though cause hunger stress rather than mental stress.

+2 Focus Item Slots etc

Potential uses of Power: [evocation examples]:Controlling blood flow, causing internal injury, blood projectiles, [thaumaturgy at the speed of evocation examples]: blood chemistry alteration, blood binding (mental control) and blood tracking.      

[Sanctaphrax]

I like it.

Balance looks pretty good, since Hunger stress is actually worse than mental most of the time.

Although I'd be worried if people are allowed to mix and match mental and hunger stress.

Can they?

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I like it.

Balance looks pretty good, since Hunger stress is actually worse than mental most of the time.

Although I'd be worried if people are allowed to mix and match mental and hunger stress.

Can they?

No, the power of the blood runs entirely off of hunger stress as the power is meant to be burning life/blood and the hunger stress track is the closest DFRP has to a Vampire Requiem style blood counter.

[Sanctaphrax]

Should probably make that more explicit. Otherwise it looks like you can just use your normal evocation and get 8 spells per scene without consequences.

[Belial666]

Well, if you got both normal evocation and "the power of blood", nothing stops you from using those powers after paying the refresh. Evocation with 3 refresh spent on that custom power giving extra mental stress boxes is about the same both cost and power-wise.

[Sanctaphrax]

Well, maybe I'm overreacting.

Extra spells just make me nervous.

Heck, I'm not even confident in the balance of the extra mental stress box power.

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The power was never meant to be stacked with evocation, it is a power meant for semi-traditional vampires who being undead can't use evocation (I think). As the power has blood drinker as a pre-requisite it is mainly meant as a NPC power which should dodge the balance issue of stacking evocation with blood drinker.

[Sanctaphrax]

I don't follow.

Why can't the undead evoke?

Why would Blood Drinker not be taken by PCs?

What is the balance problem with Blood Drinker + Evocation?

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The reason I thought that the undead couldn't have evocation is that evocation is magic drawn partly from life so it wouldn't make sense for something dead to have it without a sponsor.

The reason I think blood drinker will be rare for PC's is that besides from RCI there are no PC blood drinkers in canon and even if you were play a RCI you probably wouldn't want to use a power which causes you hunger stress (power of the blood) which would in turn make you more lily to lose control and kill someone.

I was responding to Belials comment on taking my custom power and evocation the problem of potentially double caster stamina rather than blood drinker and evocation.

[devonapple]

The reason I thought that the undead couldn't have evocation is that evocation is magic drawn partly from life so it wouldn't make sense for something dead to have it without a sponsor.

Undead should be able to do magic without an add-on power: even BCVs. If they couldn't, I am fairly certain that Evil Hat would have included such a power in the Powers section, or specified in their monster writeup such a shortcoming.

[polkaneverdies]

Vamps can do magic. Harry mentions in the books that they don't draw on life like wizards do. They tap some pool of greasy dark energy that gives him the willies.
Iirc it is the same place that he thinks that the real fear in the vamp war is that they could take you alive and turn you.

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Sponsored Magic Bibliomancy  [-4] You can project the world of the word (book) into the real world. Nothing from the world of the word can exist without context as it would lose its meaning and therefor its existence, monster drawn from books remain monsters and heroes, heroes. (all Evocation effects of this power fall under the element words and all focus items for this powers are books.)
 

[Watson]

Is there a summary of the custom powers somewhere (as the Master list in the first post does not have all entries)?

[Sanctaphrax]

http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,25794.msg1097989.html#msg1097989

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Magic Eater[-2] -  Anyone who makes the mistake of targeting a magic eater with magic shouldn't be surprised when it back fires dramatically.

When ever targeted by magic a magic eater can spend their turn in advance to wrestle control of a spell from the caster (direct discipline contest). Succeeding this contest allows the magic eater to redirect the spell to his chosen target.