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does anyone have any ideas on how to save a black court vampire and turn them back?

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 01:35:57 AM »
There might be some way to turn them back into a dead corpse (I personally find this to be unlikely), but there's no way to turn them back into a living person.  Black Court vamps are dead. Or, rather, undead.  But not alive.
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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 01:39:30 AM »
no i mean like human with a soul

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 01:48:50 AM »
no i mean like human with a soul

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 01:50:15 AM »
no i mean like human with a soul

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 01:55:58 AM »
Transformation into a vampire of any stripe seems to be pretty permanent. I mean, Harry searched for years for a way to turn Red Court vamps back to human, and if memory serves he found one thing that might have worked. Black Courts are even more transformed than Reds, so I can only imagine that it'd be even harder than that.

We're basically talking direct action by the heaviest of the heavy hitters. This would be Archangels, one of the Faerie Mothers, or maybe an ancient and powerful god. Big, big mojo, in other words.

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 02:09:20 AM »
Although such a thing would be great for a high concept "Ex Vamp Wizard of the Black Court."

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 02:53:42 AM »
no i mean like human with a soul
I'm pretty sure that's not possible.
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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 03:27:37 AM »
Kill their sire.

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2010, 05:01:30 AM »
does anyone have any ideas on how to save a black court vampire and turn them back?
Swim against the streams of time and prevent them from being tuned?
Kill them, and bring them back to life as a human?
Get an Elder god from beyond to transform them into something closer?
Mind-swap them into a normal human body?

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 05:04:08 AM »
Bear in mind all of those things will more than likely end up with a characters head on the proverbial chopping block.
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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2010, 05:05:29 AM »
Swim against the streams of time and prevent them from being tuned?
Kill them, and bring them back to life as a human?
Get an Elder god from beyond to transform them into something closer?
Mind-swap them into a normal human body?

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2010, 05:15:31 AM »
time magic to prevent them ever becoming a black court in the first place.

Use a paradox-performing ritual to keep their personality/memory the same at your option.

Possibly just drag them forward in time instead of seeing 'who would they be now if they were never a blampire'

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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2010, 01:27:30 PM »
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Re: easiest way to save a black court vampire and return them to a human
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2010, 06:43:41 PM »
The Winter Mother's gift would have saved a *half-turned* Red. Not necessarily (probably not) a full Red ... much less a Blampire.

Time travel seems the only thing that would likely work. Possibly very powerful necromancy (like what Kumori did times a dozen), depending on what a Black Court transformation does to the soul (traps/imprisons it? sends it to the afterlife? destroys it?) and whether a sufficiently powerful necromancer could call back a soul that's gone all the way to the afterlife -- I kind of doubt it. So, massive Law violations and maybe disruption of the world...