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Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2010, 04:13:07 PM »
Again, it was exaggeration in order to highlight my point ironically. Christians can have knights that use their faith and divine power as a weapon, Islam can have assassins that use fear and terror as their weapons? Of course, I'm sure that wasn't what you meant to say, but it just seemed like a classic example of ethnocentrism in action. The Op wanted names for Muslim knights, he was suggested names for Muslim assassins.

Of course, I hadn't planned on jumping on a soapbox about it as it's only a minor thing and the Hashshashin are a commonly known Islamic sect, so I just made two quick comments to... even it out I guess. Oh well, let's get the thread back on topic.

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2010, 05:23:43 PM »
What is arabic for "Warriors of Light"?

Thinking of that as the base name...

Having 1 small group of them in each capital city, supported by a mosque...

Each group has a leader.

1 in the group is a Champion of God, Focused Practitioner, Minor Talent, sorcerer or Wizard.

...  Or is that too many magical beings for a group to go against the powers of darkness?

Detroit's Chapter would be at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn...

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2010, 05:29:03 PM »
My post is just a friendly advisement.  Like those big orange barrels at the roadside or construction tape around a big hole in the ground.  In this case, we're on ground that could quite easilly drift into Touchy Topic Land.  The OP has a fascinating idea that can enrich the gameworld, and it brings other ideas to mind.  How have the Massai dealt with supernatural predators, for example?

I just wanted to ensure we don't wander into direction of real life commentary on social/political issues.  Thread drift being what it is, think about how often a mention of Robin Hood turns brings up comments socialism, captialism, etc.  Or how often a question about Michael's sword turns into a discussion or even snarky arguement on various interpretations of Christianity, predestination, and high fructose corn syrup.  So we need to be careful where we let our rambling lead us.  Imagine Larry Fowler getting a hold of it, taking it out of context and saying "New Harry Dresden game teaches children to be suicide bombers!"  

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Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2010, 05:29:14 PM »
I don't know what you're talking about with the whole thread drift thing.

On an unrelated note, I have an idea!


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Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2010, 05:41:41 PM »
I would look at the classic novel: 1001 Arabian Nights, there are many short stories you could use for inspiration for your name and villains. This might help you come up with an appropriate name.

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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2010, 05:45:59 PM »
The Djinn have a very interesting lore and history, much like that of the Fey in western culture, or Kami in shinto.  Maybe they're involved with/opposed to these powers in some way.

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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2010, 05:46:45 PM »
The Epic of Gilgamesh comes to mind.

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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2010, 05:59:42 PM »
I would say most large, powerful organisations would have an awareness of the supernatural world whether it's just a couple of high-ups, a grass-roots movement or an organised conspiracy. There's probably at least one organisation for each major religion (though some religions will have very different reactions to others) and major world powers. Heck, there might be some secret department in microsoft or apple, channeling for ideas, for stockmarket hints etc.

Warriors of Light sounds like a good name and that organisation sounds good to me.

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2010, 08:02:54 PM »
I think it could be a great basis for adding more Holy Swords to the game, Like three blades each contain a fragment of the tablets the prophet recorded the Qur'an on, Or something similar. Passed down to bloodline of kings. Get three nice Arabic Names (Justice, (عدالة) Hope (أمل), and freedom (حرية) thanks Google translator), go with Abu Saif  or similar BA order name, and suddenly we have a whole awesome set of Not-Knights of the cross prefect for play in your home game without getting your canon dirty.

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Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2010, 10:52:04 PM »
What is arabic for "Warriors of Light"?

Thinking of that as the base name...

Having 1 small group of them in each capital city, supported by a mosque...

Each group has a leader.

1 in the group is a Champion of God, Focused Practitioner, Minor Talent, sorcerer or Wizard.






Light is Noor or Nur as Nuristan meaning "Land of Light" (or it could be translated as the Enlightened)

It would probably be something like Sayef al Nur meaning "Sword of Light". You could also go with "Zulficar". This was the name of the sword that Mohammed carried.

Hope the helps.

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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2010, 12:08:30 AM »
Light is Noor or Nur as Nuristan meaning "Land of Light" (or it could be translated as the Enlightened)

It would probably be something like Sayef al Nur meaning "Sword of Light". You could also go with "Zulficar". This was the name of the sword that Mohammed carried.

Hope the helps.

Excellent Zulficar thats an awesome name for a sword.

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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2010, 08:31:48 AM »
Zulficar is a cool name for a sword, but it could also work as the group name: The Zulficari, the swords of Mohammed. After all, they don't actually have to have magic swords, they could have, magic daggers or wands or a certain piece of jewellery or clothing. They could be powerful defensive items, they could fire bolts of lightning or hypnotise their enemies. It could be powerful anti-magic, or even a 'truth' weapon that shows all lies, cancels all illusions and show monsters for what they really are (tough on RCV).

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Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2010, 11:29:31 AM »



Light is Noor or Nur as Nuristan meaning "Land of Light" (or it could be translated as the Enlightened)

It would probably be something like Sayef al Nur meaning "Sword of Light". You could also go with "Zulficar". This was the name of the sword that Mohammed carried.

Hope the helps.

I just plain like that name. It rolls out smoothly and sounds RIGHT. Maybe not for the OP's use specifically, but I'm going to gank that name and save it for a good use at some point in D&D.
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Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2010, 10:19:35 AM »
Look at the Sufi and the Dervishes(from Persian درویش, Darvīsh). Sufism is the mystical aspect/side of Islam and the practitioners. It would be a sort of Faith magic thing if that was a way you wanted to go. If you wanted to go more sword combat style the look at the Hashishin. I also like the idea of having weapons that incorporate holy items from Islam in a similar fashion to the swords of the cross( hey if the White God thought it was cool for the crusifiction artifacts why not others)

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2010, 09:43:26 PM »
The books sort of imply that a Muslim would have no problem carrying a Sword of the Cross. Your actual faith doesn't seem to matter specifically, just qualitatively.. I know that at one point, the parable of the blind men and the elephant is used. All religions are facets of the same God seems to be the canon of the Dresdenverse.