Questions not for the feint of heart

[Bludrose]

Okay - not to sound too serial killerish - how do you remove someone's arms, legs, eyes and jaws without killing them? I've probably been flagged by numerous FBI and government agencies through my searches on the web and coming up with bupkiss.

[Starbeam]

Painkillers to keep them docile and not have their heart go into shock, surgical removal, then cauterize the wounds.  And likely not all at the same time.  My b/f's read a lot about serial killers and watches a lot of forensics shows.  I would think some kind of medical knowledge would be necessary to know the best ways to cut/cauterize, and what drugs would be best to use.

[Aakaakaak]

Gross stuff under the black.

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Arms: Tourniquet them to stop the flow of blood for a while. Chop with big hatchet for dramatic effect. Use a bone saw if you want the slow pain.
Legs: Pretty much the same thing, but you'll want to tourniquet a little lower. There's big arteries that go through the inner thigh.
Eyes: A good deep sea fish hook sounds like it would to the trick. Once it's out of the socket just nip the stalk with some good kitchen shears.
Jaw: This is interesting. There's a lot of bone involved there. You could shatter the jawbone with a ball-peen hammer, then knife the bone out, or you could do it a little more gruesome, knife your way in from the lips to the back of the mouth to get your horizontal, run a vertical cut from jaw to jaw under the chin (careful to avoid the arteries. You don't want to slit his throat.), then once you have the bone and teeth exposed you break out the bolt cutters.

NOTE: H E A V Y sedation is involved. It's highly doubtful you could pull off this kind of thing if the person is awake. They'd likely die from the trauma of missing limbs, etc. The only way I could see someone getting away with someone staying awake through most of it is a spinal block (I think that's the right term for the big needle that goes in your back?)

Yes, to do all this some medical knowledge would be required.

[BobForPresident]

I strongly suggest you pick up a book called: Trauma - A Writer's Guide to Injuries. It gives you realistic answers to what happens when stuff like what you're discussing goes down.

[Cajun Guy]

Just standard surgery. I work at a VA hospital and we are whacking things off all the time.  If we are dealing with magic, I supposed you could give them some supernatural form of gangrene. If that were the case things could drop off without surgery or risking shock, it would just take a while and smell really nasty. That's a smell you never forget, let me tell you.

 I can't think of a way a non-medically trained person could do something like that without magic. You might get away with fingers and toes and maybe a hand or foot, but chances are the victim would die of shock pretty early on.

[Vash the white]

Gross stuff under the black.

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Arms: Tourniquet them to stop the flow of blood for a while. Chop with big hatchet for dramatic effect. Use a bone saw if you want the slow pain.
Legs: Pretty much the same thing, but you'll want to tourniquet a little lower. There's big arteries that go through the inner thigh.
Eyes: A good deep sea fish hook sounds like it would to the trick. Once it's out of the socket just nip the stalk with some good kitchen shears.
Jaw: This is interesting. There's a lot of bone involved there. You could shatter the jawbone with a ball-peen hammer, then knife the bone out, or you could do it a little more gruesome, knife your way in from the lips to the back of the mouth to get your horizontal, run a vertical cut from jaw to jaw under the chin (careful to avoid the arteries. You don't want to slit his throat.), then once you have the bone and teeth exposed you break out the bolt cutters.

NOTE: H E A V Y sedation is involved. It's highly doubtful you could pull off this kind of thing if the person is awake. They'd likely die from the trauma of missing limbs, etc. The only way I could see someone getting away with someone staying awake through most of it is a spinal block (I think that's the right term for the big needle that goes in your back?)

Yes, to do all this some medical knowledge would be required.

I think i may have just lost my lunch

[Bludrose]

Thank you all - very good resources. My character will have medical knowledge to make it more believable. I do asure everyone that I will use this knowledge for good only....


MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA... oops 

[Aakaakaak]

I think i may have just lost my lunch

Sorries. I did give warning.

[Vash the white]

What ever, just because i lost my lunch doesnt mean i didnt enjoy it deep down for the knowldege. MWhahahahaha...just kiddding

[Enjorous]

I don't think sedation is needed considering all I've read about civil war surgeries rarely if ever involved something more than a shot of whiskey. You'd definitely need to have the "patient" strapped down if you opt out of drugs.

my $2 (adjusted for inflation)

[Vash the white]

Enj,.. while this is true, sometimes i do worry,

[svb1972]

And the mortality from Shock of Civil War Surgery was /crazy/ high.

[meg_evonne]

I'd go with aakaakaak  with an  aaaaakkkkkk gag.  LOL 

Except for the eyes.  Melon baller much more efficient.  One with a serrated edge.  You could also research 'drawn and quartered'.  Since (Wallace from Scotland - ie BraveHeart was famously drawn and quartered with the parts spread across the UK) they usually began with a man's privates, I'd think they would have bled out, but those guys have such a sense of humor that I'm sure they kept the entertainment value going as long as possible before actually losing the victim... 

[Aakaakaak]

Ooooh, melon baller! I like it! If you do it right you don't even have to snip the stalk!

[shades of grey]

and i still cant believe after the blacked out stuff i carried on reading

sometimes i truly scare myself