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Offline Dragon_Blooded

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Veils questions
« on: May 04, 2010, 10:30:39 PM »
Two questions that came out last game:

- Is the veil dispelled once the character attacks someone?

- How long do they last? Evocation veils, not Thaumaturgical ones, which have pretty well-defined durations.

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Re: Veils questions
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 10:40:28 PM »
Evo veils last one exchange. You can push more shifts of power into it to make it last longer though. If you do so when you first create it you will have to make a weaker veil though. However, you can cast a strong veil on the first exchange, then extend it for multiple exchanges on the next exchange, then do other things on the subsequent exchanges until it runs out of power, then you could still take an exchange to re-power it for more exchanges again if you liked.

I would imagine that if the veil, evo or thaum, has duration left then it does not break when you attack someone. However, they may have other ways to find you once they know you are present (the sight for instance), or they may be able to attempt to defend or attack still if you are nearby, but have -2 shifts to everything they do because of the veil aspect on you. This game leaves a lot of such things up to the players and GMs, so if you think such a thing is too overpowered in your campaign then just make it drop. If not, keep it in. If uncertain, then make the veil drop until the start of the players next exchange, so the person attacked could just delay his action until you attack, then retaliate before you veil up again.

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Re: Veils questions
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 11:10:56 PM »
That's not actually correct on Evocation. Check the revised PDF on p. 255. They last as long as a regular Stealth roll...which also very much means attacking dispels them.

Thaumaturgy veils are different and might well last through attacks, and arentol's advice is pretty good there.

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Re: Veils questions
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 11:47:57 PM »
Where is this revised PDF you speak of?

NM, actually looked for it and there it was!