Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)

[Archmage_Cowl]

That's not my interpretation of how Sponsored Magic interacts with normal magic at all.

okay. How would you rule something like that? because it specifically says in YS pg 302

Later in Harry’s career, the staff is
seen assisting with Hellfire-based fire evocation,
likely adding it as an “element”.

actually looking at that again i could see it possibly being the "Fire" it added as an element. Is that how you would have ruled it?

[Deadmanwalking]

actually looking at that again i could see it possibly being the "Fire" it added as an element. Is that how you would have ruled it?

Yep. 

And, while I'd need to re-read Dead Beat I actually think I disagree, I don't think we ever see it help with Fire, we see it help with Hellfire-charged Spirit Evocations for the most part, which are kinda already within it's sphere of effect.

[GruffAndTumble]

And, while I'd need to re-read Dead Beat I actually think I disagree, I don't think we ever see it help with Fire, we see it help with Hellfire-charged Spirit Evocations for the most part, which are kinda already within it's sphere of effect.

This is definitely the case, in my opinion. Hellfire with the staff is always "Forzare," "Fuego." I just read Proven Guilty, the book with the highest incidence of fire magic, hell- or otherwise, and he uses Hellfire-imbued force attacks.

[Archmage_Cowl]

Hey Deadman i was wondering if i might request a more accurate version of Maeve. I know we dont see a whole lot of what she can do and dont know much about her, but i'm curious to see how you would peg one of the lady's powers. (i know they would be majorly tough but i figure they are just inside the statable level)

[Deadmanwalking]

Sure, if you like. And yeah, the Ladies aren't even Senior Council level (though they approach it). They're very stattable. In fact, here she is:


Name: Maeve

Aspects:
High Concept: The Winter Lady
Other:
Cruel and Vindictive;
Party Girl;
My Whim Is Your Command;
More Power Than Smarts;

Skills:

Superb: Conviction, Deceit, Lore, Resources,
Great: Athletics, Guns, Intimidation, Weapons,
Good: Contacts, Discipline, Endurance, Presence,
Fair: Alertness, Might, Rapport, Scholarship,

All other skills are Average.

Stunts:

Takes One To Know One (Deceit)
Sex Appeal (Rapport)
Riposte (Weapons)

Powers:

Inhuman Mental Toughness [-2]
Supernatural Senses (Strange Senses) [–1]
The Sight [-1]
Greater Glamours [–4]
Marked by Power [–1]
Inhuman Strength [-2]
Supernatural Speed [–4]
Supernatural Toughness [–4]
Inhuman Recovery [-2]
The Catch [+3] is cold iron and the like, as well as trappings of Summer.

Evocation [-3]
Thaumaturgy [-3]
Unseelie Magic [–2]
Refinement [-7]

Total: -36 Refresh

Specialties:

Evocation: Elements (Air, Spirit, Water); Power (Air +3, Spirit +1), Control (Air +4, Spirit +2)
Thaumaturgy: Control (Unseelie Magic +2); Complexity (Unseelie Magic +3); Crafting (Strength +1)

Focus Items:
Ring of Air [+2 Offensive Control with Air]

Enchanted Items:
Winter Mail [Block 8 or Armor Value 4, three times per session] (4 Item Slots)

Stress:

Mental: OOOO(OO) (+1 Mild Consequence)
Physical: OOOO(OOOO)
Social: OOOO
Armor: 2 vs. physical stuff, 1 vs. mental stuff, otherwise by spell or item effect.

Here she is, right around an 8 Shift Evocation specialist, among other things, and a deadly, deadly, creature.

Unseelie Magic is a perfectly valid thematic Specialty for Thaumaturgy.

Her magic is her own, hence the Evocation and Thaumaturgy. Also, it let her get Specialties.

She's a bit more combative than Aurora was, or than Lily is likely to be, but significantly worse at the social thing.

And, post Cold Days...I'd say she's not quite as good in a physical fight, and better at manipulation than I thought. Also, she uses guns as readily as melee weaponry. Stats adjusted accordingly.

EDIT: Added Inhuman Mental Toughness.

[Archmage_Cowl]

thanks deadman. thats a sweet write up of her

[Deadmanwalking]

I endeavour to please. 

[Archmage_Cowl]

I endeavour to please. 

I'm not sure this is the place for it but would you mind rating a character of mine? he's an emissary of yggdrasil(sp?) the World Tree. I'm pretty good on most of his stuff but i have one power i dont think works. so if you dont mind i'll post it here.

[Deadmanwalking]

I don't think this is the right place for that, but PM me, and I'd be happy to look it over.

Or just post a general advice thread in the main forum and get lots of people's advice and opinion, not just mine. 

[Ophidimancer]

You gave Maeve Fire Evocation, and no Water?

[Deadmanwalking]

Whoops. That was definitely just a typo. It's been fixed now.

[Archmage_Cowl]

Hey can i put a few more requests in? I would like to see your take on grevane, corpsetaker, and kumori. I know we havent really seen them do much (really specificly refering to kumori) but still any imput would be sweet. Also if you stat up corpsetaker what are your personal thoughts on how her body swap works? Personally i thinks it is a majorly powerful psychomancy at the speed of evocation effect that deals any extreme consequence body swap (or at least thats its goal).

So if you have any free time and dont mind taking a crack at them i think it would be really interesting to hear your input.

P.S. sorry if any of that isnt very legible i'm very sleepy. Ill check this again tomorrow so if it isnt legible i'll fix it then lol.

[Deadmanwalking]

Sure. I'll whip 'em up in the next few days. Kumori and Grevane'll be pretty easy, since the book's done most of the work for me. Corpsetaker...will be a lot harder, but by no means impossible.

[Archmage_Cowl]

Sure. I'll whip 'em up in the next few days. Kumori and Grevane'll be pretty easy, since the book's done most of the work for me. Corpsetaker...will be a lot harder, but by no means impossible.

Many thanks . I actually tried them (well corpsetaker and grevane) myself and i wanna see what your take on them "full powered" is.

[Deadmanwalking]

Name: Grevane

Aspects:
High Concept: Master Necromancer
Trouble: Hubris On An Epic Scale
Other:
Disciple of Kemmler;
Never Without My Zombies;
Dead Calm;

Skills:

Superb: Conviction, Discipline, Lore, Presence,
Great: Contacts, Intimidation, Scholarship, Weapons
Good: Alertness, Athletics, Deceit, Resources,
Fair: Burglary, Endurance, Investigation, Stealth,
Average: Driving, Empathy, Fists, Might,

Stunts:

Finely Tuned Third Eye (Lore)
Kusarigamajutsu (Weapons)

Powers:

Inhuman Mental Toughness [-2]
Evocation [–3]
Thaumaturgy [–3]
The Sight [–1]
Soulgaze [–0]
Wizard’s Constitution [–0]
Sponsored Magic (Kemmlerian Necromancy) [–2]
Refinement [–4]
Lawbreaker (First) [–2]
Lawbreaker (Fifth) [–2]

Total: -21 Refresh

Specializations:

Evocation: Elements (Air, Earth, Spirit); Power (Spirit +2), Control (Spirit +1)
Thaumaturgy: Control (Necromancy +3*); Complexity (Necromancy +4*, Divination +1, Summoning +1)

Focus Items:
Spirit Ring (+2 Offensive Power with Spirit)
Shield Ring (+2 Defensive Power with Spirit)

Stress:

Mental: OOOO(OO) (+1 Mild Consequence)
Physical: OOO
Social: OOOO (+1 Mild Consequence)
Armor: 1 vs. mental effects, otherwise by spell or item effect.

*Including the +1 from Kemmlerian Necromancy.

Grevane is terrifying, with an 10 shift offense at Weapon: 8 when he chooses to use it, and an 8 shift defense. He's also, unfortunately for him, very near helpless when not using his magic to defend.

He'll usually raise Zombies to deal with minor threats, or fold when people have the drop on him, but is exceedingly dangerous if he can contol the situation, and no slouch in a stand-up fight.

He clearly has good Contacts and decent Resources, or he wouldn't have had half the information and connecions he collected. Ditto Intimidation and Deceit.

His Trouble Aspect is nasty, and gets used on him a whole lot. It prevented his Death Curse.

EDIT: Inhuman Mental Toughness added.