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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #330 on: May 24, 2011, 11:45:19 PM »
Updated with info on when AAAA Wizardry (and the flashback from AAAA Wizardry) takes place. Thanks to Katarn and his thread.

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #331 on: May 25, 2011, 12:24:15 PM »
How do we know that "the Warrior" pre-dates "Last Call" chronologically?

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #332 on: May 25, 2011, 02:07:57 PM »
How do we know that "the Warrior" pre-dates "Last Call" chronologically?

Does it say so in SJ?  I don't have my copy with me.

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #333 on: May 25, 2011, 02:19:50 PM »
Does it say so in SJ?  I don't have my copy with me.

Yup! From Side Jobs -

Takes place between Small Favor and Turn Coat and before “Last Call”      

Butcher, Jim (2010). Side Jobs: Stories From the Dresden Files
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #334 on: May 25, 2011, 02:24:28 PM »
Does it say so in SJ?  I don't have my copy with me.

Correct- it's between SF and TC.  However, I read both pertinent stories and couldn't find any reason one couldn't be ahead of the other. Neither "Last Call" or "The Warrrior" make reference to each to each other.

Plus, consider the amount of trauma Michael went through.  He wouldn't be moving that much in half a year.  Over a year, after "Last Call" (between March-Summer of 10 ASF) makes more sense from a practical standpoint.

Again, if there's evidence Last Call must come after, please let me/us know.

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #335 on: May 25, 2011, 02:32:56 PM »
Jim outright saying "this is the order" doesn't qualify as evidence? :D

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #336 on: May 25, 2011, 02:36:14 PM »
Also...

8 ASF, late November: Small Favor.

9 ASF, ?: The Warrior, the short story from Mean Streets.

10 ASF, March: Last Call, the short story from Strange Brew.

The Warrior can take place a full year after Small Favor.  Heck, I don't think there's any reason why it couldn't take place in January or February of 10 ASF.

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #337 on: May 25, 2011, 04:00:54 PM »
Jim outright saying "this is the order" doesn't qualify as evidence? :D
I think the question is the order of the short stories between SF and TC- unless he gave the order of the shorts too?

The Warrior can take place a full year after Small Favor.  Heck, I don't think there's any reason why it couldn't take place in January or February of 10 ASF.
They mention a softball season ending- this would imply maybe a full summer season (unlikely given Michael's injuries), or more likely a seasonal high school sport Michael coaches (allowing it to be spring 10 ASF, around or after Last Cal, before TC).

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #338 on: May 25, 2011, 04:06:54 PM »
I think the question is the order of the short stories between SF and TC- unless he gave the order of the shorts too?

In this case, yes he did. My post above was taken from my Kindle for PC copy of Side Jobs.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #339 on: May 25, 2011, 08:31:12 PM »
I think the question is the order of the short stories between SF and TC- unless he gave the order of the shorts too?
They mention a softball season ending- this would imply maybe a full summer season (unlikely given Michael's injuries), or more likely a seasonal high school sport Michael coaches (allowing it to be spring 10 ASF, around or after Last Cal, before TC).
As stated it must be before Last Call, as a result it can't be in 10ASF since it would be too cold (they are playing softball and wearing shorts). Thus it is either close to the end of spring or the end of summer in 9ASF (they are close to the championship). While a regular softball season ends in May or June, they could be in a summer league.

Edit: I posted this in the AAAA Wiz Placement thread but I'll repost it here.
From Jim, when he handed off the story to Fred and me to beta: "It's set between Small Favor and Turn Coat."
Is this for AAAA Wizardry or The Warrior?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2011, 08:41:46 PM by Bastian »

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #340 on: May 25, 2011, 09:18:26 PM »
I think I'm the only one that feels that Vignette takes place before Storm Front but after Restoration of Faith? For Bob to have waited 5 or 6 years to say anything about his ad is kind of astounding. I like to think that in Vignette, Harry is looking at his ad in the phonebook for the first time.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #341 on: May 25, 2011, 09:23:51 PM »
I don't think Harry's ad was new at the time of Vignette.  I always thought it had been in the phone book a few years, and Harry and Bob were considering revising it.  Why would Harry have let the ad go to press if he wasn't confident about how he was representing himself?

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #342 on: May 25, 2011, 09:30:37 PM »
I think I'm the only one that feels that Vignette takes place before Storm Front but after Restoration of Faith? For Bob to have waited 5 or 6 years to say anything about his ad is kind of astounding. I like to think that in Vignette, Harry is looking at his ad in the phonebook for the first time.
Butcher stated in Side Jobs that it "Takes place between Death Masks and Blood Rites."

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #343 on: May 25, 2011, 10:08:15 PM »
I don't think Harry's ad was new at the time of Vignette.  I always thought it had been in the phone book a few years, and Harry and Bob were considering revising it.  Why would Harry have let the ad go to press if he wasn't confident about how he was representing himself?

Well the thing is Harry was confident about it, Bob is the one saying it sucks and has no style. "No. Monsters. It's fine the way it is."

Butcher stated in Side Jobs that it "Takes place between Death Masks and Blood Rites."

Yeah, I know that. But it felt as if it was earlier for a while. The only thing that keeps it from being earlier is Jim's timeline and Bob mentioning things from the first five books.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #344 on: May 25, 2011, 10:43:19 PM »
Yeah, I know that. But it felt as if it was earlier for a while. The only thing that keeps it from being earlier is Jim's timeline and Bob mentioning things from the first five books.

...well, then. :D