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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #495 on: October 09, 2012, 01:40:43 AM »
OK, I found this in the Timeline list.
     5 ASF, late September: I Was A Teenage Bigfoot, the short story from Blood Lite
     3:Aftertaste.  Irwin is 14.

     5 ASF, October (Halloween): Dead Beat.  Georgia is now in Grad School, which
     makes sense now that we know she was in college in FM.  We're not sure when
     they started grad school, but we do know that she and the rest of the Alphas are
     going to graduate in a year and a half.  Ramirez is 20, according to Word of God.
     October 29: The book begins.
     October 31: The Darkhallow

While reading I was a Teenage Bigfoot, Harry says this when he confronts the bad guy.
     "Wizard," I said quietly. "White Council. Heck, Doctor, I'm even a Warden these days."

Curious if any one else has noticed this and how this changes the stories place in the timeline.

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #496 on: October 09, 2012, 08:12:55 AM »
Ah, you're absolutely right!  I knew the story was "circa Dead Beat," but I couldn't remember if it was before or after.  Don't remember what caused me to pick late September, but whatever it was, it was inaccurate.  Moving now!

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #497 on: October 30, 2012, 05:24:51 PM »
This has probably been asked before, but this is a huge thread...

How do we square:
"25 BSF, October 31: Harry is born."   
and:
"0 ASF, March: Storm Front.  Harry is 25, according to Jim, and he's been wizarding professionally for two years.  We can reasonably place the year 0 in the timeline within a year or two of 2000, and there's a fair amount of evidence indicating that it could be 2000."
with:
"AGE 27-28: Storm Front" ?

I'm in favour of the first two, since making him 25 in 2000 is easier for me to remember and calculate from, as we'd share the birth year 1975.
 

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #498 on: November 04, 2012, 07:58:10 PM »
Can anybody tell me the exact time Lisa Murphy married Richard Boughton? If so, in what story is this mentioned?
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #499 on: November 04, 2012, 09:36:34 PM »
Can anybody tell me the exact time Lisa Murphy married Richard Boughton? If so, in what story is this mentioned?
We find out they're engaged in Blood Rites, Chapter 28.  I don't recall that the wedding date is on page anywhere.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #500 on: November 04, 2012, 09:44:18 PM »
But we know they are married by Proven Guilty, if memory serves me correctly.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #501 on: November 05, 2012, 08:29:14 AM »
We find out they're engaged in Blood Rites, Chapter 28.  I don't recall that the wedding date is on page anywhere.

Ok thanks!

Somehow I had the impression Harry was at that wedding (imagine Harry at the wedding with the family of Murphy). Clearly i am mistaken.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #502 on: November 05, 2012, 03:44:06 PM »
Ok thanks!

Somehow I had the impression Harry was at that wedding (imagine Harry at the wedding with the family of Murphy). Clearly i am mistaken.
The only wedding I recall on page is Billy & Georgia's wedding, which was in the short story Something Borrowed (Takes place between Dead Beat and Proven Guilty).
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #503 on: November 05, 2012, 03:45:10 PM »
Ok thanks!

Somehow I had the impression Harry was at that wedding (imagine Harry at the wedding with the family of Murphy). Clearly i am mistaken.

Yep.  You may be remembering the Murphy family reunion picnic in Blood Rites.

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #504 on: November 05, 2012, 03:56:51 PM »
Yep.  You may be remembering the Murphy family reunion picnic in Blood Rites.

That must have been it!

Thanks, it has been bothering me for some time that i could not figure it out...
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #505 on: November 05, 2012, 04:35:07 PM »
I seem to remember Jim mentioning somewhere that Murphy's trip to Hawaii during Dead Beat was for Lisa's wedding. If they're engaged in Blood Rites and married by the time of Proven Guilty, that would make sense.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #506 on: November 05, 2012, 04:55:51 PM »
This has probably been asked before, but this is a huge thread...

How do we square:
"25 BSF, October 31: Harry is born."   
and:
"0 ASF, March: Storm Front.  Harry is 25, according to Jim, and he's been wizarding professionally for two years.  We can reasonably place the year 0 in the timeline within a year or two of 2000, and there's a fair amount of evidence indicating that it could be 2000."
with:
"AGE 27-28: Storm Front" ?

I'm in favour of the first two, since making him 25 in 2000 is easier for me to remember and calculate from, as we'd share the birth year 1975.
I've usually gone with the context of placing Harry just about a year younger than Jim. I don't know (textev) if that's accurate but it would give Jim the advantage of being also being within a year or so of the same age as Harry during the writing months.  In March 0 ASF, that would set Harry at a few weeks less than 25-1/2. (Yes, I know that sometimes Jim has gone back to set a shortie in an earlier time setting, such as Irwin Pounder's earlier years, but Harry's own timeline in the books seems to roughly echo RL time.)

There can be advantages to writing an urban fantasy character who has seen about as much of the wider world and contemporary events as the author. When one is twenty, there's more of a stretch to make a seventy-five year old character's ideas and outlook, or a three year old's, be consistent with what it's like to really be that age. Often it's done, and very well, but it's just a bit more intentional. When one is twenty-five and one's friends and peers are about the same age, that's a constant reality check. My experiences, my norms, are effectively considerably different than are those of someone far older or far younger. We've grown up in different worlds, because of time and events we've experienced.

For my guesstimate that JB 26 Oct 1971 would parallel Harry Dresden 31 Oct 197x, Storm Front was written during his coursework with Debbie Chester at OU, Norman, Oklahoma. Storm Front was published in 2000, but SF and FM were ready and I think GP also finished or nearly so, by the time SF hit the shelves. From that, I'd guess that Dresden's birth year would be more in the 1971 to 1974 range rather than all the way to 1975. Just guessing.
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #507 on: November 06, 2012, 01:32:49 AM »
Yeah, but if you go any earlier than 1975, you get into another small problem: David Copperfield wouldn't have had his stage name yet.
Though maybe Jim hadn't quite thought that one through? :-\

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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #508 on: January 11, 2013, 05:10:31 PM »
Yeah, but if you go any earlier than 1975, you get into another small problem: David Copperfield wouldn't have had his stage name yet.
Though maybe Jim hadn't quite thought that one through? :-\

If Malcolm met David before Harry was born, it is even possible that Malcolm suggested the stage name Copperfield to him.  So he knew ahead of time what stage name DC was going to use when he was ready.   
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Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« Reply #509 on: January 11, 2013, 05:28:01 PM »
Jim has told me, "His birthday was actually 1976. I've always meant him to be about five years younger than me."

This may introduce plotholes, but I don't think it's any more hole-y than any other year. :D