Perfect Casting, part 2

[SpiritSAS]

My take on the actors chosen in the survey.  There are several who could pull off the character, that are at the top of the survey, but who I don't think work becasue they don't fit the body style, which is so central to the role.  That's why I picked Paul Bettany.  I think he can get off those snappy, wiseass lines really well.  Also, he's 6 ft 3.  Not as tall as the Dresden character, but taller than most of the other choices.  Plus, he's fairly thin and wiry whereas Hugh Jackman and all the other top choices, are far more musclar and broard shouldered.  Jackman, for example or Gerard might make an excellent Sanya.  

[SpiritSAS]

My take on the actors chosen in the survey.  There are several who could pull off the character, that are at the top of the survey, but who I don't think work becasue they don't fit the body style, which is so central to the role.  That's why I picked Paul Bettany.  I think he can get off those snappy, wiseass lines really well.  Also, he's 6 ft 3.  Not as tall as the Dresden character, but taller than most of the other choices.  Plus, he's fairly thin and wiry whereas Hugh Jackman and all the other top choices, are far more musclar and broard shouldered.  Jackman, for example or Gerard might make an excellent Sanya. 

SAS

[Jaeh]

Jerry Bruckheimer?

What's weird is Jerry Bruckheimer has produced soo many good movies, is there such thing a "Great Producer".

Joss Whedon as Director.......NO! He has never directed a Hollywood movie besides Serenity, and Goners which is still in production, and he is rumored to possible direct The Avengers, but still no.

However, I DO think that he should be one of the writers, just not the director, if you like at his career is he much more of a writer than a director.

he probably just has a good "nose" for good movies. I called dibs on him because I like him, that's all, lol.

fine. :p him as a writer then. I vote for *scans your list* I don't know some of them because I suck, but I don't like James Cameron. >>

[Bluebeard]

My take on the actors chosen in the survey.  There are several who could pull off the character, that are at the top of the survey, but who I don't think work becasue they don't fit the body style, which is so central to the role.  That's why I picked Paul Bettany.  I think he can get off those snappy, wiseass lines really well.  Also, he's 6 ft 3.  Not as tall as the Dresden character, but taller than most of the other choices.  Plus, he's fairly thin and wiry whereas Hugh Jackman and all the other top choices, are far more musclar and broard shouldered.  Jackman, for example or Gerard might make an excellent Sanya. 

SAS

Jackman and Gerard are white though, while Sanya is a black russian man.

[MoSeS]

These are arranged by number of votes as of the time of this post, excluding Denisof which is Jim's pick that wasn't included in the poll.

Alexis Denisof           height: 6' 2" age: 44
Nathan Fillion           height: 6' 1½" age: 39
Hugh Jackman          height: 6' 2½" age: 41
Ryan Reynolds          height: 6' 2" age: 33
Timothy Olyphant     height: 6' 0" age: 42
Joe Flanigan            height: 6' 0" age: 43
Jared Padalecki        height: 6' 4" age: 28
Clive Owen              height: 6' 2½" age: 45
Zachary Quinto        height: 6' 1" age: 33
Lee Pace                height: 6' 3" age: 31
Paul Bettany           height: 6' 3" age: 39
Neil Flynn               height: 6' 5½" age: 49
Chris Evans             height: 6' 0½" age: 29
Gerard Butler           height: 6' 2" age: 40

[MoSeS]

Jackman and Gerard are white though, while Sanya is a black russian man.

I was just thinking the same thing.

[SpiritSAS]

Good point. Forgot that.  Funny too that in another post in this thread, someone mentioned Alan Rickman for Morgan.  Isn't Morgan African American too or was that just the actor they cast in the show three years ago?

Anyway, I think the points about body type and height are still valid.  Need a tall, wiry type, who's not overly muscular.  Jared P. is the tallest in the group (under 40) but he's not a seasoned enough actor for role, in my opinion.  Neil Flynn may be too old and is not known well enough to draw in the movie audiences. 

[Tribblechomper]

Good point. Forgot that.  Funny too that in another post in this thread, someone mentioned Alan Rickman for Morgan.  Isn't Morgan African American too or was that just the actor they cast in the show three years ago?

It was the actor...quoting from Turn Coat, Chapter one:

"My first impression of the guy had stuck with me pretty hard—tall, heavily muscled, with a lean, sunken face I'd always associated with religious ascetics and half-crazy artists. He had brown hair that was unevenly streaked with iron, and a beard that, while always kept trimmed, perpetually seemed to need a few more weeks to fill out. He had hard, steady eyes, and all the comforting, reassuring charm of a dental drill. "

[Jaeh]

Good point. Forgot that.  Funny too that in another post in this thread, someone mentioned Alan Rickman for Morgan.  Isn't Morgan African American too or was that just the actor they cast in the show three years ago? 

only in the tv show.

[MoSeS]

Anyway, I think the points about body type and height are still valid.  Need a tall, wiry type, who's not overly muscular.  Jared P. is the tallest in the group (under 40) but he's not a seasoned enough actor for role, in my opinion.  Neil Flynn may be too old and is not known well enough to draw in the movie audiences.  

I agree with both statements.

Jared P isn't seasoned enough, even for his age vs like Chris Evans who is only a year older.

And yeah, Neil Flynn is way too old.

I still think my favorite choice as far as best age and best height is Lee Pace, though also not very seasoned.

*i just saw that he played with SMG in Possession, never saw it though. (that's Sarah Michelle Gellar, not Sub Machine Gun)

I do like many of the choices on the list for other reasons, but they don't physically fit as well as the others.

And very much dislike some like, but there seem to be a over abundance of Whedon/Firefly/Stargate fans here so I won't say which two choices up there I don't like most.

[Chiana]

What it really comes down to, I think, is how much fan based pull has the author got in the marketplace and how big the author's negotiating lawyers cajones are.

Bottom line, if creative control is that important to the author, they will say NO to signing away their rights to consult on choosing the actors. They may not get the final say, but they CAN retain the right to fight for the authenticity of their conceptualization. (big words for pick they guy they imagined playing the role when they wrote it, I know...  )

Just ask author Terry Goodkind, who sold the rights to his books and watched the TV series they made out of them be changed into an almost unrecognizable depiction of his works and characters.  It was made cheesy, and not a good cheddar chesse, like toe jam cheese or something.

[tiny[but]fierce]

I hereby officially cross these actors off as the non-Harry Dresden type:

Zachary Quinto
Lee Pace
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman (I know he doesn't fit the age group, but I am still holding out hope. Maybe he can be Book 15-era Harry.)
Clive Owen
Paul Bettany
Timothy Olyphant
Nathan Fillion (I love Nathan, but the more I look at him, the more I think that might actually be better suited as Michael. Or, if we want to let him change up his perceived character base a little, cast him as some of the other men in the verse -- for instance? MALCOLM Dresden, instead of Harry. Or Justin DuMorne, John Stallings, Anthony Forthill [he was, after all, a priest on the last season of Buffy, albeit a misogynistic, sadistic one...]. Let him shake it up a bit, ya know?)
Joe Flanigan
Chris Evans
Gerard Butler
Neil Flynn
Jared Padalecki

[MoSeS]

I hereby officially cross these actors off as the non-Harry Dresden type:

Zachary Quinto
Lee Pace
Ryan Reynolds
Hugh Jackman (I know he doesn't fit the age group, but I am still holding out hope. Maybe he can be Book 15-era Harry.)
Clive Owen
Paul Bettany
Timothy Olyphant
Nathan Fillion (I love Nathan, but the more I look at him, the more I think that might actually be better suited as Michael. Or, if we want to let him change up his perceived character base a little, cast him as some of the other men in the verse -- for instance? MALCOLM Dresden, instead of Harry. Or Justin DuMorne, John Stallings, Anthony Forthill [he was, after all, a priest on the last season of Buffy, albeit a misogynistic, sadistic one...]. Let him shake it up a bit, ya know?)
Joe Flanigan
Chris Evans
Gerard Butler
Neil Flynn
Jared Padalecki

You missed Joe Flanigan.

I agree with the rest.

[tiny[but]fierce]

You missed Joe Flanigan.

I agree with the rest.

Damn, I thought I got him. I'll fix that.

[Warden John Marcone]

I vote Joss Whedon and David Greenwalt. It's like Buffy and Angel all over again.

Throw in Nic Cage Ridley Scott and Jerry B as executive producers? *shrug grin*

FIFY.  Jerry B is good with the explody stuff, but Ridley Scott movies always have a good story, too.  I say it should be a joint project between Mutant Enemy and Scott Free.