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Who should play Harry Dresden in a Movie?

Zachary Quinto
41 (5.9%)
Lee Pace
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Ryan Reynolds
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Hugh Jackman
91 (13.2%)
Clive Owen
46 (6.7%)
Paul Bettany
19 (2.8%)
Timothy Olyphant
75 (10.9%)
Nathan Fillion
220 (31.9%)
Joe Flanigan
37 (5.4%)
Chris Evans
7 (1%)
Gerard Butler
22 (3.2%)
Neil Flynn
8 (1.2%)
Jared Padalecki
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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1845 on: September 14, 2010, 03:17:20 PM »
Yeah because white people never get a break in holywood...

Racism aside, I'll bet you I can name more black men who have played characters who were written white than you can name white men who have played characters who were written black.
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« Reply #1846 on: September 14, 2010, 03:21:38 PM »
Racism aside, I'll bet you I can name more black men who have played characters who were written white than you can name white men who have played characters who were written black.

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« Reply #1847 on: September 14, 2010, 03:28:18 PM »
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« Reply #1848 on: September 14, 2010, 03:31:45 PM »
Morning Snowy!


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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1849 on: September 14, 2010, 03:39:44 PM »
Racism aside, I'll bet you I can name more black men who have played characters who were written white than you can name white men who have played characters who were written black.

I only can think of one right now, Will Smith in I Am Legend.

But I am curious to read your list. I will take you up on the challenge.

And Robert Downey, Jr in Tropic Thunder.  :P


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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1850 on: September 14, 2010, 03:51:34 PM »
You might be suprised by how many white men have played black roles though if you go back to when they wouldn't hire blacks, and so white men would were black make-up to play the roles.

Whites who performed in blackface in film included Al Jolson, Eddie Cantor, Bing Crosby, Fred Astaire, Mickey Rooney, Shirley Temple and Judy Garland.


Uncle Tom's Cabin (1903) all of the major black roles were whites in blackface.

D. W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation (1915) used whites in blackface to represent all of its major black characters.

Taking all of that into consideration, you might be hard pressed to find an era when whites were played by blacks.

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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1851 on: September 14, 2010, 03:56:33 PM »
Blackface was usually done to make fun or stereotype the blacks, very much different than a white actor playing a part written for a black actor.  Very much different.

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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1852 on: September 14, 2010, 03:58:28 PM »
I only can think of one right now, Will Smith in I Am Legend.

But I am curious to read your list. I will take you up on the challenge.

And Robert Downey, Jr in Tropic Thunder.  :P




you set yourself up for this one, MSD. xD teeheehee.

I found Tropic thunder hilarious as heck. xD I loved it, lol
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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1853 on: September 14, 2010, 03:58:48 PM »
Harry - Will Smith
Thomas - Tyrese Gibson
Morgan - Taye Diggs
Kincaid - Wesley Snipes
Michael - Forest Whitaker
Marcone - Denzel Washington
Ebenezar - Morgan Freeman
Nicodemus - Samuel L Jackson
Carlos - Don Cheadle
The Merlin - Danny Glover
Rashid - Laurence Fishburne
Injun Joe - Carl Weathers
Waldo Butters - Chris Rock
Don Ortega - Jamie Foxx
Hendricks - Michael Clarke Duncan
Sanya - Topher Grace

Susan - Sanaa Lathan
Murphy - Halle Berry
Lea - Tyra Banks
Mab - Angela Bassett
Charity - Vivica Fox
Luccio - Gabrielle Union
Lara - Zoe Saldana
Molly - Alicia Keys

BTW here is the perfect cast.

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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1854 on: September 14, 2010, 03:59:43 PM »
Blackface was usually done to make fun or stereotype the blacks, very much different than a white actor playing a part written for a black actor.  Very much different.

No, it was only done to make fun of later, it started off as serious roles, but just like back in the day when women weren't allowed to act, so men would dress as women in plays, the same goes for blacks in early film, they didn't do it to make fun of the stereotypes until much later.

Anyways, that's besides the point, those roles are "black roles" played by "white actors" no two ways about that.

Also "written for a black actor" was never part of the equation.
Besides, you don't write a role for an actor you write a role for a character.
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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1855 on: September 14, 2010, 04:17:11 PM »
Not necessarily.  Old Man River was originally written in Showboat specifically for Jules Bledsoe.  Just one example of a role (or song in this case) being written for a specific actor.
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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1856 on: September 14, 2010, 04:18:56 PM »
I stand corrected.

I should have said "usually don't write...."
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« Reply #1857 on: September 14, 2010, 04:19:43 PM »
Good enough.
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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1858 on: September 14, 2010, 04:23:29 PM »
I see what you mean though, I could totally see writting a role just for Clint Eastwood or Chuck Norris regardless of the character.

But if the character is Clint Eastwood, I would cast Viggo Mortensen.  :P
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Re: Perfect Casting, part 2
« Reply #1859 on: September 14, 2010, 04:35:14 PM »
Dagnabbit, I just don't have time to do the research required for this right now.

But Will Smith has done a bunch more, too... like the guy in Wild Wild West. He apparently likes to do that, and he does it well.

And honestly, I was thinking more along those lines of race bending like Smith does than racist blackfacing. Smith doesn't white his face to take on the role, he becomes the character and erases the race.

So I will concede this one.  :)
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