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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2009, 09:04:57 PM »
I will say that I'm always reluctant to hit report to moderator because one of the few times I did- ages ago- Jim responded, and I felt like a complete and total tool for bugging him.  I realize that's my issue, because he's all grown up and stuff and can choose to ignore those things.  Hell, Iago's so busy, I feel bad for bugging him, too.  So I only hit the report to mod when it's really, really severe (generally).  Maybe there are others who feel the same way?  I didn't even think about hitting it on some of the issues I had in the Spoilers board until one of the mods (ashton?) pointed out that there's no way for them to know about issues unless we point it out.
I know that's what I've always done.  I try to work out any problems at the time they happen, like two rational grown ups.  I've only hit the Mod button when people have gotten nasty and personally abusive.  I know we are supposed to let the Mods know when there are problems, but I've found most of the time just trying to nicely talk about it being a problem solves it and then there is nothing to report since it stops.

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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2009, 09:18:53 PM »
I will say that I'm always reluctant to hit report to moderator because one of the few times I did- ages ago- Jim responded, and I felt like a complete and total tool for bugging him.  I realize that's my issue, because he's all grown up and stuff and can choose to ignore those things.  Hell, Iago's so busy, I feel bad for bugging him, too.  So I only hit the report to mod when it's really, really severe (generally).  Maybe there are others who feel the same way?  I didn't even think about hitting it on some of the issues I had in the Spoilers board until one of the mods (ashton?) pointed out that there's no way for them to know about issues unless we point it out.

It's a common enough thread that I think we'll be making some more explicit statements to the forum that the button needs to be used.

I also need to look into whether or not we can insulate Jim from getting those notices without eliminating his moderator power. I'm not sure there's a way to do it that wouldn't also strip away his ability to get notified of replies to threads he wants notification of.
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2009, 09:19:30 PM »
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2009, 09:21:17 PM »
I know that's what I've always done.  I try to work out any problems at the time they happen, like two rational grown ups.  I've only hit the Mod button when people have gotten nasty and personally abusive.  I know we are supposed to let the Mods know when there are problems, but I've found most of the time just trying to nicely talk about it being a problem solves it and then there is nothing to report since it stops.

I certainly don't object when folks can work things out. :)

What bothers me is folks saying that they have persistent issues which they haven't reported but are upset we haven't fixed.
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2009, 09:38:34 PM »
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2009, 09:41:12 PM »
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2009, 09:47:21 PM »
Yeah, sorry about the delay. I got the images less than 3 weeks before my daughter was born (or thereabouts), so things were already getting crazy, and then my mail client collapsed on me later, so it was nominally on my to-do list, but not easily found.

Fret not, Fred. I think if anyone qualifies for excusal, it would be you. And it's here now, innit? Better late than never. :)

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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2009, 09:53:45 PM »
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2009, 10:04:52 PM »
 "And if you argue, the thread gets locked.  Or you get in trouble for arguing. "

This may be the crux of the matter...this isn't an argument board. It's a discussion board. You can disagree without it being an argument. Respect of the other posters (this should apply to those who have to read your post, even if you can't manage any for the person who's behaving badly towards you). If someone else acts poorly, that doesn't give you license (on this board) to sink to their level in response.


"Yeah, stalking is a harsh word, but when that's what it feels like and every time you ask for help, no one does anything?"

Again, things were done. I'm sorry that it wasn't as quick as you'd like, but he was given the same set of chances to correct himself as you were (and that everyone gets if they're not a spammer or a troll). Notice he ran out of his chances must faster than you did, and is no longer here. You are.  Ergo, people did something...and furthermore, for it to get to this point, people HAD been doing things, in the past.


On a side note, the reason this is not an argument board is because of Jim's wishes. If nothing else, please respect the author whose board you are on. (Not to mention Iago, who runs it and, far as I know, pays for it.)

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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2009, 10:23:08 PM »
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2009, 10:38:45 PM »
It's a common enough thread that I think we'll be making some more explicit statements to the forum that the button needs to be used.

I also need to look into whether or not we can insulate Jim from getting those notices without eliminating his moderator power. I'm not sure there's a way to do it that wouldn't also strip away his ability to get notified of replies to threads he wants notification of.

Giving someone the moderate board privilege seems to include them in getting the emails, from my playing around with my board.  There might be a mod that you can add on that would do what you want.  If you're interested, I can comb through the SMF forums and packages to see if I can find one.
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2009, 01:37:24 AM »
Giving someone the moderate board privilege seems to include them in getting the emails, from my playing around with my board.  There might be a mod that you can add on that would do what you want.  If you're interested, I can comb through the SMF forums and packages to see if I can find one.
I'm always interested in not having to do research. :)

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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2009, 03:48:38 AM »
2) I save the PMs I receive (sadly, they system doesn't auto-save PMs we send). We've had entire discussions about things. You even thanked me at one point and said that upon rereading posts you saw where I had tried to warned you about something.

Mickey, there's an option in your profile to auto-save outgoing PMs. Just FYI.
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Re: Adding a few Moderators?
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2009, 03:57:23 AM »
And I know this is double posting, but I have to say something.

There's a ton of posters on this board.  And 4 mods, including Iago.  Who all have lives outside this board.  Folks, you're not going to get a personal response to every "report to moderator" request.  To think you will, or that you somehow deserve one because you have over 20 kajillion posts is rude.  Not going to happen.  And it's not wrong.  I've had a mod flatly discount my report once as stupid.  Did I get offended?  Nope.  Just learned that person and I have different reporting standards.

Do I like how everything on this board goes?  No.  Of course not.  Do I respect that the mods have a hard job and do the best they can in dealing with Lord knows how many different personalities?  Yes.  I think everyone should do the same, and increasingly, I get the sense that they're not.

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