Jim's stand on fic?

[Automagic]

Hullo!

First time poster, longtime reader (of the books). I haven't found this anywhere, but I was wondering what Jim's stance on fanfic was. Specifically, fanfic in general and fanfic about his own properties.

I'm not a fanfic writer myself, but know some authors (coughRicecough) have a take-no-prisoners view of it while others (she of the vs. Vander Ark) believe the more the merrier.

I didn't know which forum this would go in, so if it's wrong I apologize.

[Matrix Refugee (formerly Morraeon)]

Jim himself appears to be the kind of guy who doesn't mind fanfic... However, his contract puts the kibosh on fanfic based on his stuff (yeah, I personally think he needs a new contract and new lawyers).

[Tribblechomper]

Jim himself appears to be the kind of guy who doesn't mind fanfic... However, his contract puts the kibosh on fanfic based on his stuff (yeah, I personally think he needs a new contract and new lawyers).

So essentially...Jim's stance is "Don't ask, don't tell"?

If he doesn't know about it, he doesn't have to tell anybody?

Likewise, no matter how much he likes it, he can't give it his seal of approval?

[Matrix Refugee (formerly Morraeon)]

So essentially...Jim's stance is "Don't ask, don't tell"?

If he doesn't know about it, he doesn't have to tell anybody?

Likewise, no matter how much he likes it, he can't give it his seal of approval?

Basically, yeah. I really don't want to say more, in case said lawyers get suspicious... :: Glares in their general direction, wonders if they sold their inner children on eBay::

[Tribblechomper]

Basically, yeah. I really don't want to say more, in case said lawyers get suspicious... :: Glares in their general direction, wonders if they sold their inner children on eBay::

Not their inner children as much as the souls of their firstborns...their heart and soul, they sold to Lea

[ballplayer72]

Hey Hey ease up on the Lawyer bashing     I come from a family of them you know (and am endeavoring to be one myself).   

In the future, please use the qualifier of Corporate Lawyer.  Those guys really DO sell their souls (think Wolfram and Hart from Angel)

[Uilos]

Hullo!

First time poster, longtime reader (of the books). I haven't found this anywhere, but I was wondering what Jim's stance on fanfic was. Specifically, fanfic in general and fanfic about his own properties.

I'm not a fanfic writer myself, but know some authors (coughRicecough) have a take-no-prisoners view of it while others (she of the vs. Vander Ark) believe the more the merrier.

I didn't know which forum this would go in, so if it's wrong I apologize.

The ultimate answer is, Jim can't know about it. There are sites for it (

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Edited, sorry-Mickey

being one of them), but other than that. Jim don't as, we don't tell

[Shecky]

Hey Hey ease up on the Lawyer bashing     I come from a family of them you know (and am endeavoring to be one myself).   

In the future, please use the qualifier of Corporate Lawyer.  Those guys really DO sell their souls (think Wolfram and Hart from Angel)

"Yeah, we only sell our souls in sustainable lots!"

*ducks*

[ballplayer72]

 

[Matrix Refugee (formerly Morraeon)]

Hey Hey ease up on the Lawyer bashing     I come from a family of them you know (and am endeavoring to be one myself).   

In the future, please use the qualifier of Corporate Lawyer.  Those guys really DO sell their souls (think Wolfram and Hart from Angel)

Heh, I just like to rattle their cages about it. In a way, it's not such a bad idea that there's a "don't ask, dont' tell" policy on fics, since it cuts down on the number of badfics that the fandom could get cluttered with Things like "Harry's long lost twin sister who's never mentioned in the books and OMG SHEEZ JSUT AZ POWAHFULL @ MAGICK!!!11", or fics with Justin DuMorne/Morningway molesting Harry as a kid, or Michael being warped into a rabid fanatic who eats babies, or Thomas getting deboched into a weepy emo cutter because aren't all vampires that way? Trust me, I used to hang out on the Godawful Fanfiction Forum and I've seen some pretty sick stuff that the fankiddies cook up...

[ballplayer72]

Heh, I just like to rattle their cages about it. In a way, it's not such a bad idea that there's a "don't ask, dont' tell" policy on fics, since it cuts down on the number of badfics that the fandom could get cluttered with Things like "Harry's long lost twin sister who's never mentioned in the books and OMG SHEEZ JSUT AZ POWAHFULL @ MAGICK!!!11", or fics with Justin DuMorne/Morningway molesting Harry as a kid, or Michael being warped into a rabid fanatic who eats babies, or Thomas getting deboched into a weepy emo cutter because aren't all vampires that way? Trust me, I used to hang out on the Godawful Fanfiction Forum and I've seen some pretty sick stuff that the fankiddies cook up...

the part about thomas being a debauched weepy emo cutter is my favorite part of this rant/statement 

[Mickey Finn]

"Likewise, no matter how much he likes it, he can't give it his seal of approval?"

He can't even KNOW about it to give an opinion. It's not a contractual thing, it's the copyright system. If he knows, he HAS to put a stop to it, or he weakens his copyright.

[meg_evonne]

I would take that to mean if you would like jim to stop by now and then---as Helen would say, "STFU!"   

[Guardian 452]

I posted this already, but the database issue caused it to get lost.  The first part is sort-of reduntant now, but I'll include it.

There used to be a set of rules here on the forum that said, in a nutshell, on the subject of fanfics, don't.  We don't want Jim to have to get the lawyers out, and he would have to.

That's the first part.  Having said that, if you ever get the chance to meet Jim, ask him about fanfics.  This'll work particularly well if he's in front of a crowd.  He'll tell you the official story, but trust me, the way he does it in person is funny enough to be worth the effort!

It was in Toronto, anyway, and I doubt it would be different anyplace else...

[Matrix Refugee (formerly Morraeon)]

That's the first part.  Having said that, if you ever get the chance to meet Jim, ask him about fanfics.  This'll work particularly well if he's in front of a crowd.  He'll tell you the official story, but trust me, the way he does it in person is funny enough to be worth the effort!

It was in Toronto, anyway, and I doubt it would be different anyplace else...

Heh! Just from his interviews that I've heard (audio and one or two video interviews), he seems like as great a storyteller in person as he is a writer, so if I ever get lucky to meet him, I'll be sure to ask. I have a feeling it's as good a story as the one about Terry Prachett playfully yelping and diving under a table when someone told him she was a fanfic writer.