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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2009, 08:16:54 PM »
Heh! Just from his interviews that I've heard (audio and one or two video interviews), he seems like as great a storyteller in person as he is a writer, so if I ever get lucky to meet him, I'll be sure to ask. I have a feeling it's as good a story as the one about Terry Prachett playfully yelping and diving under a table when someone told him she was a fanfic writer.

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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2009, 12:00:07 AM »
At MileHi he read about an hour worth from the beginning of Turn Coat off his laptop.   Worth the entire trip just for that part!
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2009, 01:57:33 AM »
Things like "Harry's long lost twin sister who's never mentioned in the books and OMG SHEEZ JSUT AZ POWAHFULL @ MAGICK!!!11", or fics with Justin DuMorne/Morningway molesting Harry as a kid, or Michael being warped into a rabid fanatic who eats babies, or Thomas getting deboched into a weepy emo cutter because aren't all vampires that way? Trust me, I used to hang out on the Godawful Fanfiction Forum and I've seen some pretty sick stuff that the fankiddies cook up...

Where can I find this?  I need to indulge my inner masochist...things like the heretofore unknown twin sister who comes in from nowhere and kicks Harry's a*s at magic (known in the biz as a Mary Sue story), and who bears a suspicious resemblance to the fanfic author...stuff like what you describe;  it's like the argument that says we cannot truly ban/erase all Evil, as then we would have no measuring stick by which to establish how wonderful Good is.

Really bad fanfic makes the most formulaic, same-plotline-every-book author look like Stephen King.
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2009, 02:06:57 PM »
Where can I find this?  I need to indulge my inner masochist...things like the heretofore unknown twin sister who comes in from nowhere and kicks Harry's a*s at magic (known in the biz as a Mary Sue story), and who bears a suspicious resemblance to the fanfic author...stuff like what you describe;  it's like the argument that says we cannot truly ban/erase all Evil, as then we would have no measuring stick by which to establish how wonderful Good is.

Really bad fanfic makes the most formulaic, same-plotline-every-book author look like Stephen King.

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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2009, 02:16:28 PM »
At MileHi he read about an hour worth from the beginning of Turn Coat off his laptop.   Worth the entire trip just for that part!

Jim was supposed to do a reading in Toronto, but asked us if we'd prefer a Q & A session instead.  He said that he felt a little wierd reading his own work!

He also said that if he starts to read, he'll wind up doing voices and (according to him) it gets a little creepy.

So, any voices?  I have to know as his saying that got a lot of us really curious!

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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2009, 03:30:34 PM »
Oh god, you have GOT to hear Jim doing Bob's voice. Worth the price of admission right there.
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2009, 06:15:03 PM »
Oh god, you have GOT to hear Jim doing Bob's voice. Worth the price of admission right there.

I might just be mentally damaged, but whenever I read Bob, in my head, his voice is perky with a dash of snark.  But mostly perky.

NecroBob just sounded like your garden varied whackajob, with a bit of sinister thrown in for good measure.
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2009, 06:19:36 PM »
I might just be mentally damaged, but whenever I read Bob, in my head, his voice is perky with a dash of snark.  But mostly perky.



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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2009, 04:28:47 AM »
Or worse....Slash!

I just can't see Harry and Bob making out or Thomas revealing that deep down he really wanted to be in Harry's yellow ducky boxers.
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2009, 04:36:20 AM »
Or worse....Slash!

I just can't see Harry and Bob making out or Thomas revealing that deep down he really wanted to be in Harry's yellow ducky boxers.
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2009, 04:38:58 AM »
I'm sure it's out there but I sure as hell am NOT hunting for it!

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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2009, 04:40:06 AM »
I'm sure it's out there but I sure as hell am NOT hunting for it!

*squicks and twitches*

Nooooo Butt secks necessary!
IT's not the sex...I just hate it when people twist the characters for those sorts of stories.

The only thing worse is when the really, cool, strong, and awesome guy/girl shows up to save the day, and they have the same name as the author.....
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2009, 05:47:47 AM »
I think I remember Priscellie mentioning something about...*shudder* Harry/Marcone slash.

But of course, this is all hypothetical, you know, like fight club
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM »
IT's not the sex...I just hate it when people twist the characters for those sorts of stories.

The only thing worse is when the really, cool, strong, and awesome guy/girl shows up to save the day, and they have the same name as the author.....

In the publishing trade, those are called "Mary Sue" stories, and sometimes, they not only have the same name as the author, but also a highly stylized redrafted description of themselves; for instance...Dan Lister, short, bald, semi-portly Butcher-board smartypants, writes a story about Batman and Robin being saved by a non-canon character who's 6'4", broad-shouldered, hyper-athletic and smarter than Einstein and MacGyver combined...who just happens to be named Dan Lister, nicknamed "Tribblechomper".  After saving the world, Tribblechomper gets a free access pass to the Batcave from Batman, who reveals his secret identity to Tribblechomper, who is clearly smarter, stronger, wiser than Batman.

Now, take that little story premise, put it between two slices of bread, add some mayo and mustard...and you have a fine example of a baloney sandwich.
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Re: Jim's stand on fic?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2009, 02:55:41 PM »
No, it's not that I mind sex either of any type....hell, I read Yaoi but seriously, if the characters are written a certain way, don't screw with it....ahem (pun may or not may not be intended).

I can't even read drawn Harry Potter or Full Metal Alchemist slash.....or the drawn comic stuff.  It's just not natural man!

As for Mary Sue...most of it really sucks and should be kept to oneself, to read over and over again.  Not to make our eyes bleed.
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